Suggestions for interior finish

Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
The interior on my 1970 venture 22 is probably not that bad to some, but I'm OCD so.....I got that going for me:dance:

the original bilge paint is flaking off pretty bad. Whats left is just the fiberglass.
At some point a PO has painted over the main cabin with what looks like bilge paint. They did not try to sand anything down just paint over what was all ready flaked off so you can imagine... It looks like the old saying... Painted over crap. the aft bilge and anything hard to reach was not repainted.

what are my options here?

I dont mind putting in the effort to sand it all down and repaint, if thats all it would be! my concern would only be that I would have to fare it all out.
I could probably live with wavy flat paint job but I just cant live with this chip off repainted look.

I also have thought about gluing fabric over the interior. I have seen some others that have done that. That way seems like less work. But I guess I would still have to sand to prepare the surface for glue.

I have tried to just ignore it but I'm just not going to be happy until I make it look "clean" some how some way.

Any simple solution would be appreciated!! or any insight on just hard hard these jobs will be!!
 
May 25, 2015
176
Macgregor, Hunter Venture 21, H25 Candlewood
I wire brushed the interior on my V21 and painted it wiith high quality exterior paint, self priming, moisture and mildew resistant. I'm pretty happy with the results. I'll try to get some pictures.

Wear a dust mask and vacuum alot, a long handle brush helps.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,062
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
I dont mind putting in the effort to sand it all down and repaint, if thats all it would be! my concern would only be that I would have to fare it all out.
I could probably live with wavy flat paint job but I just cant live with this chip off repainted look.
If you sand it all down, you shouldn't have to fair, amiright?
 
May 25, 2015
176
Macgregor, Hunter Venture 21, H25 Candlewood
It came out pretty smooth just getting all the old peeling paint off


 
Aug 22, 2011
1,113
MacGregor Venture V224 Cheeseland
The interior on my 1970 venture 22 is probably not that bad to some, but I'm OCD so.....I got that going for me:dance:

the original bilge paint is flaking off pretty bad. Whats left is just the fiberglass.
At some point a PO has painted over the main cabin with what looks like bilge paint. They did not try to sand anything down just paint over what was all ready flaked off so you can imagine... It looks like the old saying... Painted over crap. the aft bilge and anything hard to reach was not repainted.

what are my options here?

I dont mind putting in the effort to sand it all down and repaint, if thats all it would be! my concern would only be that I would have to fare it all out.
I could probably live with wavy flat paint job but I just cant live with this chip off repainted look.

I also have thought about gluing fabric over the interior. I have seen some others that have done that. That way seems like less work. But I guess I would still have to sand to prepare the surface for glue.

I have tried to just ignore it but I'm just not going to be happy until I make it look "clean" some how some way.

Any simple solution would be appreciated!! or any insight on just hard hard these jobs will be!!
If your old Venture is anything like ours was - the interior finish is pretty rough, craggy, glue blobs, nooks, crannies, rough texture paint where it isn't peeling - not to mention the awful glue residue that was left after peeling off all of the outdoor carpet that was everywhere. Cleaning the interior of the boat used to take forever because dirt and water gets trapped in all sorts of places.

With much effort I have changed all of that.

Removed all glued on carpeting.
Ground down ALL interior surfaces with a grinder and a flap wheel (awful job).
Put fairing/fill in all crags, nicks, scratches, gullys, etc.
Filleted every seam where two surfaces come together.
Sanded smooth and did final fairing.
Painted with industrial acrylic.

It is now night and day difference.
Cleaning time now takes MINUTES, even if the entire inside gets wet.

It was a lot of work and the grinding hellish but I am very satisfied with the results.

Just finished rebuilding the vberth - took all of last month.
 
Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
justsome, the thing is that some of the hull has never been painted and its not smooth. its that textured surface. Im having a hard time coming up with a comparable surface or texture to compare it to. almost like a real fine waffle pattern.

John, that looks amazing!!!! do the pictures show well, what you see when looking at it in person?
Also do you mean a hand held wire brush?

topcat, yes!!! pretty bad.
 
May 25, 2015
176
Macgregor, Hunter Venture 21, H25 Candlewood
Pretty much what you see is what I see. I hand brushed all the lose material off, gave it agood bleach wash to kill any mold that might be hidden under the paiint, and brush painted.

You can still see the glass weave (that is the "waffle" pattern your talkig about) in someplaces, and some of the little irregular surfaces, but it's not really noticable and it's 1000x better then what was there.

Make sure you get GOOD paint, home creepo doesn't cut it.
 
Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
John,
How long ago did you do this and has it held up. What do you mean by the good stuff? what did you use?
 
May 25, 2015
176
Macgregor, Hunter Venture 21, H25 Candlewood
10 years ago

Looks great. I paint professionally and use Sherwin-Williams products.

Most people aren't aware they have quite an extensive marine line and the house paints are the end result.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Recommendation for interior paint over glass from 2 sources I trust, is to use ACRYLIC latex paint.

I'd maybe grind it a bit smooth, but not so smooth you are removing fiberglass, which you would be to get the waffle pattern out of the heavy roving. Filling and fairing? Why bother?
 
Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
I got the same advice from another forum! think thats the way Im going to go.
To be sure, is it Acrylic Latex INTERIOR paint???

I thought if Im going to all the trouble to sand it all down then why not fair it to get a better finish? Flat and smooth. But I really do not think I will go to that much trouble.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,330
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
It would appear to me that if you're ever gonna plan to wash down the interior of the boat EVER AGAIN, it may be prudent to consider using EXTERIOR paint. If I was doing my boat, that's what I'd do. I got a hint a few years ago that HD's Behr paint is pretty good. Exterior enamel Ultra Plus. Don't know if it's latex or not.

Another tip from Lin & Larry Pardey: If you're gonna go white (instead of beige like in the pictures just posted by John) then add just a tint of BLUE into the white. It makes it a lot warmer and easier on the eyes, and looks better. That's what, they claim, the old seafarers used to do.
 
May 25, 2015
176
Macgregor, Hunter Venture 21, H25 Candlewood
EXTERIOR acrylic laytex

Funny, had the almost white with a drop of blue and hated it, that is why I went with the earth tone
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,330
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
John, I hear ya. Our interior is that earth tone and we quite like it. More subdued. But some folks like the "old yacht style white", hence my suggestion. Some just find it, even with the blue, to be too bright.

Your boat, your choice. :)
 
Aug 22, 2011
1,113
MacGregor Venture V224 Cheeseland
I faired ours. We are keeping the boat a long time and it made a hell of a difference for when situations get wet and messy. It was a chore but worth it. Painted with industrial acrylic from do it center and have a near liner like finish. I am pleasantly surprised with the performance of the industrial acrylic and the price is very right.
 
Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
tOPCAT,
What did you use to fare? Was it a once over deal? or did you have to do a lot of passes. I love the idea of the flat finish. I guess I will do a test spot to see if I will be happy with out faring.
 
Aug 22, 2011
1,113
MacGregor Venture V224 Cheeseland
tOPCAT,
What did you use to fare? Was it a once over deal? or did you have to do a lot of passes. I love the idea of the flat finish. I guess I will do a test spot to see if I will be happy with out faring.


A couple of long days with a grinder and flap wheels.
A couple of full days filleting with resin and microballons
A day of filling with Everclear lightweight.
A few days of sanding sanding sanding.
A few hours of painting.

I did it over a course of a few years (spring sessions) because I also heavily modded the interior structures, added bulkheads, new divided compartments, quarter berth decking, rebuilt vberth, not to mention the decks cores I've replaced or repaired. Also the cockpit sole is new.

Pic:1 - a little sanding and some new paint just wasn't going to cut it for me to be looking at for the next 15 years.

Pic2: Finally making structurally sound in a layout to our liking. Easy to clean and smooth to the touch.

Pic3: Ahhh, soon we can think bout pretty wood work, trim, cabinets etc.
 

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Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
looks good Topcat!! so what was the epoxy resin and balloons for? deep defects? and did you mean evercoat? or did you get drunk on everclear that day?
 
Aug 22, 2011
1,113
MacGregor Venture V224 Cheeseland
looks good Topcat!! so what was the epoxy resin and balloons for? deep defects? and did you mean evercoat? or did you get drunk on everclear that day?
I don't use epoxy - I use what the boat was made of polyester.

The white lines you see along the seams of the interior have been filleted with polyester resin and microballons. Yes that mix can be used for deep defects. Perhaps the brand name for the fairing compound is evercoat. That must be used only as a final very thin skim coat or it will crack. Most of the skim coat that you lay on is sanded back off again.
 
Apr 8, 2015
90
Macgregor Venture 22 Charlotte NC
Okay got ya, The resin and balloons fill the weave. And then just some kind of skim coat to finish.
Thanks, I do not know any thing really about what compounds are best.
Just want to do this once ya know.