Chain size ?????????

Apr 23, 2012
69
Hunter 430 Kemah
I know it's been done to death,43 footer, PO had 20ft of 3/8 chain and 200ft
of line. We are getting ready to do some coastal cruising, and in process
of installing chain and new line. Looking at g-4 5/16, need input on ya'll thoughts of size of chain. Will be 125ft of chain and 200ft of line. Will be using the windless.
 
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Sailm8

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Feb 21, 2008
1,751
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
Do you have a windless? I have 60ft of 5/16ths and it can be a bear to pull up by hand. 150ft by hand would be tough.
 
Sep 11, 2011
428
Hunter 41AC Bayfield WI, Lake Superior
That is the issue cannot find any specs on the windless. 1995 Hunter 430.
I am confused. If the PO had chain and it is the same windless then you know the chain size. If it is a new windless, the new manufacture sets the specks.

Take the old rode with you to a store and get them to match it.

Sorry if this sounds grumpy.
 
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Dec 25, 2000
5,947
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Anchor Rode

Our 1991 P42 came equipped with a 40# Danforth, 30 feet of 5/16" grade 40 chain and 250 feet of 5/8" three strand nylon. When we first purchased the boat in 2002 I had some anchoring lessons to learn.

Those lessons have helped make what I consider to be a very effective anchoring system suitable for just about any occasion. Still have the 40# Danforth. Very effective in PNW waters. Also, still use a 20# kellet (lead down rigger ball). So, Belle-Vie now has 50' of 5/16" grade 40 chain, 150 feet of 5/8" three strand nylon, another 50' of 5/16" grade 40 chain and another 150 feet of 5/8" three strand nylon. Each is connected to the other using a warp splice.

Typically I shoot for 25 feet of water to drop and set the anchor. Usually settle with a minimum of 110 to 140 feet of rode unless sour weather is in the forecast. A SS carabiner secures the kellet to the end of the first 50' segment of 5/16" chain. This helps with catenary.

Catenary is also the reason for alternating between chain-to-rope to chain-to-rope. This tip came from another seasoned sailor that seemed to make sense when lots of rode is needed for much deeper water and/or sour weather conditions.

In all the years of anchoring hundreds of times in PNW waters, one time the anchor did not hold and that was in a strong blow in Cortex Bay on Cortez Island, BC. It is a notoriously poor anchorage consisting of a thin layer of mud over hard shale. Needless to say even with 300 feet of rode, Belle-Vie at 35,000 pounds still moved about 100' that night.

In all the years of anchoring, the Danforth has always reset itself when a wind shift or tide current change occurs. Perhaps there are more modern designs that do a better job than the Danforth, but as long as the Danforth does its job, I am a happy sailor.
 
Jan 12, 2011
930
Hunter 410 full time cruiser
That is the issue cannot find any specs on the windless. 1995 Hunter 430.
You have to get the number off the gypsy to look up the chain that it will accept. But if it has 5/16 now and it works that is the correct size for it.

I have 350' of G4 5/16 and a 60lb Manson Supreme on my boat. I have no reason to feel that increasing to 3/8 chain would be any better.

And yes it is heavy if the windlass dies. I know as I was solo once when it happened.
 
Dec 29, 2009
149
Hunter 380 Little Creek, Virginia Beach, VA
If you can remove the chain gypsy and take it down to West Marine you can find the exact fit.
 
Jun 1, 2009
1,851
Hunter 49 toronto
Why are you using rope at all?

I know it's been done to death,43 footer, PO had 20ft of 3/8 chain and 200ft
of line. We are getting ready to do some coastal cruising, and in process
of installing chain and new line. Looking at g-4 5/16, need input on ya'll thoughts of size of chain. Will be 125ft of chain and 200ft of line. Will be using the windless.
On my old hunter I had a rope / chain rode.
On my 49 I decided to go all chain.
In my opinion, it is way better. Never have a problem holding ground, and scope is much less. You might want to consider this
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,093
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
An idea: from a friend who sailed from Vancouver BC to Mexico

The Rocna. All 20kg of it with 100ft of chain. The rest of the world can debate all they like. When I pull into a place like Bodega Bay at midnight and the fog is so thick I can't see the jetty 50 feet away to make an entrance, I drop my hook in the rolling ocean swells with the surf crashing (Foster says it's like staying in a cheap Best Western beside the highway), and I sleep. And in the morning I have a windlass to pull the beast up and I wouldn't trade it for anything. (I also wouldn't add more chain - this works perfectly in 25 to 30 feet of water - you let all the chain out and you tie off nylon at the preferred scope and don't bother with snubbers and chain hooks and all that stuff...)

This was our best upgrade.