Myth busters

Oct 19, 2010
14
Pearson Electra/Ensign Lake Charles, LA.
"Project boat - just needs the interior reinstalled"
"Interior unfinished -you can custom build it just the way you want it"
"I know it was designed that way but I wanted more.........so I changed........"
"Four foot draft, but trailerable"
"Classic" - referring to any old wooden boat
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
There are two type of sailboats... displacement boats, and planeing boats.
 
Nov 22, 2011
1,296
Ericson 26-2 San Pedro, CA
"My portable generator is sooo quiet that I'm *sure* it's not disturbing the boats anchored nearby."
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,013
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
A locked fixed blade sailboat prop is faster than freewheeling..
If the transmission manufacturer says lock the prop it is indeed faster as you will not lose the time repairing or replacing the transmission. :)
 
Oct 19, 2010
14
Pearson Electra/Ensign Lake Charles, LA.
"We don't need the engine, I can sail in an out of this crowded marina"
"Fiberglass boats are low maintenance"
"I don't need a depth finder, I know these waters"
"Shouldn't cost more than $......or take more than......hours"
"The yacht club needs a commodore, but hey it's easy"
"Mistakes? Don't worry - nobody at the yacht club notices"
"I wouldn't own a powerboat - sailboats are cheap to operate"
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,013
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Hate to tell you this but number 5 isn't a myth! its an actual formula that applies to displacement boats! and is the best close predictor for the the maximum speed of a displacment boat. This formula does not apply to boats ( including sailboats) that are capable of planing.
This myth is just too nuanced to be included as a myth. As others have noted surfing, planing and heeling boats can exceed the theoretical hull speed. Naval Architects look for ways to exceed the limits.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
31
Hunter 38 Severna Park MD
With respect to number 5: Yogi Berra once is said to have said, "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." Theory states that the "hull speed" - maximum speed of a displacement boat - can be closely approximated in knots by 1.39 times the square root of the water line in feet. The displacement hull sits in the trough between the trailing edge of the bow wave and the leading edge of the stern wave created as the hull moves through the water. The bow and stern wave fronts move together at a speed proportional to their separation distance. So in theory there is a limit to how fast a displacement hull moves -- namely the maximum speed of these two wave fronts. In practice however, once a sail boat reaches hull speed additional energy usually produces excessive heal, wind is dumped out of the sails, and the boat stays in the trough. In practice, even a displacement hull can be forced to ride up onto the trailing edge of the bow wave forcing the boat to go faster than the theoretical hull speed without getting up on a plane.
 
Jun 7, 2004
350
Oday 28 East Tawas
When I bought my boat (a modest 28' O'day) one of my son's pals said: "Wow! Your dad must be rich". My son replied: "yeah we were until he bought that boat".
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,347
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
OT answer

stu could you help me out im still learning what is a combiner and what is an ACR? thanks
Lee,

Essentially and functionally the same thing, relays that combine the banks when charging voltage is present. The c is made by Yandina (great company, BTW, lifetime warranty) and the ACRs are made by Blue Sea.
 
Jan 11, 2014
14,013
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
With respect to number 5: Yogi Berra once is said to have said, "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." Theory states that the "hull speed" - maximum speed of a displacement boat - can be closely approximated in knots by 1.39 times the square root of the water line in feet. The displacement hull sits in the trough between the trailing edge of the bow wave and the leading edge of the stern wave created as the hull moves through the water. The bow and stern wave fronts move together at a speed proportional to their separation distance. So in theory there is a limit to how fast a displacement hull moves -- namely the maximum speed of these two wave fronts. In practice however, once a sail boat reaches hull speed additional energy usually produces excessive heal, wind is dumped out of the sails, and the boat stays in the trough. In practice, even a displacement hull can be forced to ride up onto the trailing edge of the bow wave forcing the boat to go faster than the theoretical hull speed without getting up on a plane.
An important variable is the amount of energy required to get a displacement boat to exceed theoretical hull speed. Once the boat tries to climb the bow wave the amount of energy required to push the boat up hill increases at a very rapid rate. That effectively limits the boat to about the theoretical hull speed. You can see this effect in calm water while motoring. It takes very little throttle to get the boat moving, however as the boat approaches its hull speed it takes relatively more throttle to get a little more speed. On my Sabre 30 with a Volvo MD7A at 2200 RPM I would move at around 5.5 kts. At WOT (~2800) I could get to a little over 6 kts. The first 5 knots were about 400 rpm per knot, the last knot was about double that.

To borrow the Myth Busters language I don't think the myth of theoretical hull speed is busted, it is, as with many things, more complicated than first appears.
 
Oct 19, 2010
14
Pearson Electra/Ensign Lake Charles, LA.
When I bought my boat (a modest 28' O'day) one of my son's pals said: "Wow! Your dad must be rich". My son replied: "yeah we were until he bought that boat".
Friend of mine bought an O'Day23 years ago and was trying to pick a name. His non-sailing father-in-law's suggestions: Hole in the Water or Barnacle Buoy
 
Oct 19, 2010
14
Pearson Electra/Ensign Lake Charles, LA.
"All we need to do is drop the centerboard out of the keel and reattach the pendant"

("or not" - 10 hours of labor and a destroyed centerboard later)