Easy load tester?

Blade

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Apr 30, 2014
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Valiant Esprit 37 Mexico
I need to do a C20 test on an 860AH battery bank.

I am thinking to use my electric range cooktops that are powered through an inverter. Since the cooktop burners have rheostat variable temperature control, I am hoping to easily set and maintain the 43A DC required load throughout the test. As long as the bare burners (with no pots on them) will keep a constant current draw and not cycle on and off under some kind of protective thermostat control.

Anybody else have a good means of establishing a fixed but variably adjustable resistive load centered around 500W for such a test?

I am surprised I cannot find a simple 400-500W variable power load tester.

Many thanks for any ideas.
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,136
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
I have used 4-5 car headlights to create a load. But they are not adjustable- you need to just select the number of bulbs to get the approximate load.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
I need to do a C20 test on an 860AH battery bank.

I am thinking to use my electric range cooktops that are powered through an inverter. Since the cooktop burners have rheostat variable temperature control, I am hoping to easily set and maintain the 43A DC required load throughout the test. As long as the bare burners (with no pots on them) will keep a constant current draw and not cycle on and off under some kind of protective thermostat control.

Anybody else have a good means of establishing a fixed but variably adjustable resistive load centered around 500W for such a test?

I am surprised I cannot find a simple 400-500W variable power load tester.

Many thanks for any ideas.
try this http://www.mscdirect.com/product/de...gle-PLA+-+Test&CS_003=7867724&CS_010=43745132

and here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Pile...ng-Alternator-Starter-Regulator-/161564477227
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
I need to do a C20 test on an 860AH battery bank.

I am thinking to use my electric range cooktops that are powered through an inverter. Since the cooktop burners have rheostat variable temperature control, I am hoping to easily set and maintain the 43A DC required load throughout the test. As long as the bare burners (with no pots on them) will keep a constant current draw and not cycle on and off under some kind of protective thermostat control.

Anybody else have a good means of establishing a fixed but variably adjustable resistive load centered around 500W for such a test?

I am surprised I cannot find a simple 400-500W variable power load tester.

Many thanks for any ideas.
Firstly, I would not do a C-20 test on an entire bank. Select a few batteries and test them individually. If un-wired resting voltages are similar then it is likely okay to assume the others are similar, especially if it is a parallel bank properly wired. Test the batteries in the bank with the lowest 24 hour resting voltage. If it is a series bank test pairs. Remember a C-20 test is 20 hours so you need a load that can be run safely for up to 20 hours.


*Charge to 100% (net current under 0.5% Ah capacity at 14.4V +/-)

*Equalize battery, if this can be done (not for GEL and non Lifeline AGM's)

*Allow battery to rest for 24 hours at 75-80F (this is not hugely critical after an equalization)

*Maintain battery case temp of 75-80F (I use a water bath with auto heating element but as a DIY just turn the heat up in one room)

*Apply a constant DC load of Ah capacity ÷ 20 (eg: 125Ah battery ÷ 20 = 6.25A Load) resistors, bulbs etc. will work.. As voltage falls current goes down so have a way to add in small increments to maintain as close to C÷20 as you can. Switches and small resistors work well for this but so can light bulbs. If using an inverter current goes up as voltage decays..

*Use an Ah counter to count Ah's removed

*If you don't have an Ah counter use time. A C÷20 load should net 20 hours run time before hitting 10.5V for a battery with full capacity. Anything less than a 20 hour run time is a % of 20 hour capacity in actual capacity.... (eg: 100Ah battery delivers 69.54 Ah's at a 5A load and runs for 13:55)

*As voltage falls try to keep current as close to C÷20 as possible

*Discharge to 10.5V as measured at the battery terminals with an accurate DVM

*When the battery hits 10.499V terminate load and calculate time or look at the Ah's delivered

*Recharge immediately. Recharging at the 20 hour rate, or a low current close to it, can have some "reforming" abilities and can restore some lost capacity.

You can build a home tester inexpensively but it will require manual manipulation of current as voltage falls. A Victron BMV-700 is cheap and can be used as the Ah counter as well as your 10.5V cut off, if you add an external relay and use its relay driver port. You could also buy a spare 50mV shunt and Ah counter wire and just pull the Ah counter off your boat for the testing....

I use rather expensive lab grade 400W/40A DC constant load devices, which have programmable battery testing capabilities. For years I used an Ah counter and resistors, bulbs etc.. I then had Mark Grasser design & build me custom a DC constant load device. It worked but was a PITA to use repeatably/daily but at least I could walk away from the test and not need to constantly adjust current.. I have batteries undergoing testing daily so I need an easy to program and set up tester....
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Maine would the load tester i posted be ok to perform this test ?

Not even close...;) The OP is looking to do a full 20 hour ampere hour capacity test. He's not looking to do a cranking load test, there is a HUGE difference.... A cranking load test, with a carbon pile tester, tells you absolutely nothing about how many amp hours of capacity the battery has left in it at the 20 hour rate..

When batteries are new you can run a RC test (reserve capacity or reserve minutes) and an 20 hour test and the batteries will line up. As they age the only good test, for knowing your banks physical Ah capacity, is a 20 hour load test.

As batteries age an RC test and Ah capacity test don't line up. A 20 hour test is the most representative test we have for how we use batteries in a deep cycling application. Problem is the test equipment for this type of test is absurdly expensive so you have to "roll your own" as they say..;)
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
so let me understand this ....say i have a 100 amp battery and i divide by 20 (hrs) = 5 amps......i set enough lights to create a 5 amp drain and monitor it for 20 hrs not going below 10.5 volts with a dvm it will give me what kind of condition my battery is in


by the way i am fascinated with the science of battery's that you share
 
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Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
so let me understand this ....say i have a 100 amp battery and i divide by 20 (hrs) = 5 amps......i set enough lights to create a 5 amp drain and monitor it for 20 hrs not going below 10.5 volts with a dvm it will give me what kind of condition my battery is in


by the way i am fascinated with the science of battery's that you share
Well you wouldn't have a 100 amp battery you would have a 100 amp hour battery..;) In a nut shell though, yes.. But keep the battery temp as 75-80F otherwise you'll have to compensate for temp too.

Hold current steady, keep battery temp between 75 & 80 and stop discharging at 10.5V now count hours of run time.. 20 hours = 100%, 15 hours = 75% & 10 hours = 50%.....

By industry standards flooded batteries are considered dead by the time they can no longer deliver 80% of new Ah capacity. They can however survive at lower capacities but the failure rate increases... Keep in mind that flooded batteries can take 15-80+ cycles to "cycle up" to capacity so nailing it down with flooded batteries is a bit more difficult.. AGM & GEL do so in under 10 cycles, and AGM specifically in as few as 2 or 3 cycles..
 

Blade

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Apr 30, 2014
9
Valiant Esprit 37 Mexico
Bought a triple mode 200W/500W/700W Husky halogen work light today at Home Depot and found a 600W halogen lamp dimmer in the basement (took it apart to verify it uses a Triac). With the light set to the 500W brightness mode, I should be able to easily maintain the C20 constant amperage of 43A from 12.8V down to 10.5V as I test the true capacity of my nominal 860Ah bank. I will just glance at my boats ammeter panel gauge occasionally throughout the test and adjust the dimmer slider with my toe as necessary as I hang out on the boat. And if I want to test the 4 batteries that make up the bank individually, the same set up but with the light in 200W mode should work the same way.

Total BOM $27

Flying down to tropical Mexico Saturday morning to give it a try.