Do you know who made this sailboat?

Jackdaw

Jackdaw

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Nov 8, 2010
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Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
HEINZIR said:
I believe that is a Luger 27. Luger made kit boats at their plant in Burnsville, MN back in the late 50s through the early 80s. The kits consisted of fiberglass panels that the buyer would bond together with resin and tape. They made and sold a number of day sailors, the most popular of which was the Lugar 16. Their cabin boats were the Luger 21, 26, 27, and 30. At some point late in their history they "stretched" the Lugar Tradewinds 26 into a Fairwinds 27. They did this without changing the actual hull; they made a new 27' deck and married it to the hull with a one foot filler piece all the way around. This raised the freeload considerably and made her look top heavy, at least to me. Since these were kit boats their quality varied greatly. It was dependent on the skill of whoever put them together. Details, such as the number of windows and their shape, also varied.
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Winner winner chicken dinner!!

What a great story. Funny thing is I used to live about a mile from this place and never knew it used to be there.
 
Maine Sail

Maine Sail

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Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
My question is how does one un-see that.....;) It's like walking in on your grand parents getting intimate.....:doh:
 
Scott T-Bird

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Oct 26, 2008
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Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Yikes! 1st-hand experience?!?!?

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Maine Sail said:
My question is how does one un-see that.....;) It's like walking in on your grand parents getting intimate.....:doh:
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HEINZER nailed it, I believe! It's got me curious about the boat that was in my winter yard. I'll have to ask the guys where it went ... it disappeared a few years ago.
 
Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
But can somebody please explain that louvre on the transom? (These things were popular on Bayliners)..
 
HEINZIR

HEINZIR

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Jan 22, 2008
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Montgomery 17, Venture of Newport, Mirror sailing dinghy, El Toro sailing dinghy Mound, MN -- Lake Minnetonka
capta

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,072
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Chris Patterson said:
But can somebody please explain that louvre on the transom? (These things were popular on Bayliners)..
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Along with the two on the sides aft, they are probably where the air vents when they blow the ballast. A submarine sailboat?
 
Brian S

Brian S

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Nov 9, 2012
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Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
I looked at the other Lugers on sailboat data.com. Boats that only their owner could love, methinks...
 
caguy

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Jackdaw said:
Winner winner chicken dinner!!

What a great story. Funny thing is I used to live about a mile from this place and never knew it used to be there.
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Ok Slackjaw, my guess was immediately the Luger and found the picture of the Fairwind 27 soon after the OP, but kept my mouth shut for obvious reasons. :redface:

I recognized it from the louvers that they used. That and the hatch over the engine is the same. I also recognized the cheap aluminum stern rail they used.

In their defense the Voyager was a well thought out boat. Having the outboard motor inboard like that but still out side of the main hull keeps it protected from trailing seas and quiet. I also understand that having the prop in front of the rudder improves steering.
The hull and deck on mine is made up of layered fiberglass cloth. There is no blown fiberglass on the boat. It is layer up fairly heavily and has no core on the deck or hull. The deck is stiff and solid as a tank. Unfortunately it also weighs about the same. The boat hulls and deck were mated at the factory.

The ports were cut and bedded by the owners. I am having to re-glass and move the port cutouts because the PO cut them too close to the bulkheads not allowing for the interior frames. I am replacing the fixed small ports with 4x14 screened Beckson ports. The interiors were either made or purchased from the factory and installed by the owners. The rigging looks just like the rigging that is on my C-27 and in fact since someone stole my mast the replacement mast is from a C-27. I am currently working on the second set of large fixed ports. I'll get back to posting progress on the Luger 30 as I continue to apply lipstick to my pig.

Now I can take and dish a pretty good ribbing but can we please go back to bashing the Hunters. ;)
 
caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Scott T-Bird said:
That's funny, there used to be the same sailboat on Lake Hopatcong for many years (in better shape). It was stored in the winter at the same yard as our boat but I never saw where it was kept in the summer and I never saw it on the water. It disappeared a few years ago. The boat in our yard had a saildrive.

I asked the guys in the yard if they knew what it was since it had no markings whatsoever. One guy thought it was a Macgregor 25 hull that had been customized with the extra topsides section and a deck from another boat.
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Yes, I agree it's a Macgregor. :D
 
Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Another small thing, as a Master Mason, that had nothing to do with it. Not as a whole. We're too busy in world dominance, new world orders, controlling our government, etc..
 
woodster

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Sep 15, 2009
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Chris Patterson said:
Another small thing, as a Master Mason, that had nothing to do with it. Not as a whole. We're too busy in world dominance, new world orders, controlling our government, etc..
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wasn't Paul Revere a traveling man also ;)
 
Scott T-Bird

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Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Caguy, I originally thought it might be a modified MacGregor

caguy said:
Yes, I agree it's a Macgregor. :D
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HEINZER actually solved the mystery for me. The boat that was on our lake was definitely a Luger-27. Why didn't you speak up earlier if you saw the thread? The boat I referred to had what I thought was an inboard with sail drive. You're saying that it is an outboard mounted within an enclosed hull?

The one that was stored next to me for a few years was built like a tank and in pretty good shape, if not for the oxidized gel coat. I could never find any markings since I was curious, but maybe I didn't look very hard. The yard guys thought maybe a modified Macgregor because if you look at the lower hull section, under the lower joint, the shape is very similar ... right down to the flared cove stripe area right underneath the lower nose of the hull ... very similar to old Macgregors. Also the stern of the lower section is very similar. It definitely doesn't have the shape of a Bayliner as many were thinking.
 
justsomeguy

justsomeguy

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Feb 20, 2011
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Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
woodster said:
one thing i hate when shaking hands is to shake a hand that feels like i just grabbed a dead fish...the first thing i do is put my other hand on my wallet :eek:
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It's a cultural thing, the handshake. I always shook my girlfriends' father's hands firmly, and looked them square in the eye.

Those poor suckers. :D

But certain cultures don't put too much stock in a firm handshake.
 
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