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I expect it'll be fun the first couple of times I use it. Then...not so much. Thanks!yep... same gas, same ratio, just not as much fun per gallon
Use it to blow up a dinghy. Or pressure-flush the head. Or maybe as an aux outboard, with the tube put in the water
Hey, I wonder if that would work?
One piece of advice for you would be to avoid that ethanol crap. That would mean that if you have some outboard gas that you got from your marina it is probably not ethanol and it is much better!
My dingy outboard has suffered the effect of ethanol and I need to replace the fuel line because of it.
My dingy outboard has suffered the effect of ethanol and I need to replace the fuel line because of it.
it absolutely does work for propelling a dinghy... not too much power off the line and you will never break any speed limits, but it beats oars. when you're a kid...maybe as an aux outboard, with the tube put in the water
the blow tube doesnt have to go into the water... it will work just pointing the tube over the transom... you can steer just fine with it.
i think it does work slightly better if you get the tube close to the water so the air velocity has something better to push against....
when i was a teenager, we used to put on lots of miles around our pond with the ol' mans leaf blower
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I switched to a Lehr propane motor for the dink. Turn it off and it's winterized.
I actually drain the oils and refill before long term storage but the fuel delivery device is always good.
how far can you go on a tank of propane? Do you use a 20 pound tank?I switched to a Lehr propane motor for the dink. Turn it off and it's winterized.
The manufacturer says 30 minutes per lb of fuel at full throttle, 1h 20mins at half. 5hp
20 lb of gasoline is just under 3 gallons, so that's probably a good comparison on tank sizes (20lb cylinder to a 3 gallon container)
Ethanol free gas: check www.pure-gas.org. If you can't get ethanol free near you, you could buy ethanol free 2 stroke pre-mix in quart containers at the local blue or orange big box store. Just don't ever calculate out the gallon equivalent cost of one of those quart containers, or you might have a heart attack!
Here's the final answer. Buried deep in the owner's manual, in fine print, it says not to use BIA or TCW (2-stroke water-cooling type) mixed oil. The oil I use for the outboard is TCW oil. Whatever the heck that means. So off to Simpson Hardware I go for the correct oil. As for the gasoline, we are blessed with at least two stations in Sumter, SC that sell ethanol-free gas. Plus, there's a Shell station on the way to the sailing club that sells it. Ethanol will never cross my small engines' lips!
That's hilarious. I can feel the entire fabric of the universe unraveling as I watch that....
After reading the manual I realized I should have read it before starting this thread. But what fun would that have been? I'm loving all the responses. And I had already seen the mythbusters episode. They never said it was practical. Just possible.
as for the mixing oils for a two stroke engine.... it absolutely DOES make a difference whether its an air cooled motor or a water cooled motor..
for air cooled engines, and this includes some of the lower end outboards, you must use an oil recommended for use in air cooled engines, such as a mixing oil for chainsaws.
ace hardware sells the "master mechanic" brand, which is specific for air cooled engines.
in a water cooled engine, you can actually use either the air cooled formulation or the water cooled formulation as there are no "hot spots" in the water cooled engine like there are in an air cooled one.... no damage will will result so you are good to go with either oil.
(even though its safe to use either oil, I do like to see the instructions stating to use an oil formulated for water cooled engines, as this shows that the manufacture of the equipment recognizes there is a difference in the two formulations)
the TC-w3 rating is a recommendation that all of the manufactures of water cooled 2-stroke oils have adopted, and some of the manufactures of air cooled 2-stroke oils.
in the literature explaining the TC-w3 rating, you never see anything said about air cooled engines, chain saws or leaf blowers.... but you will see mention of water cooled 2-stroke engines.
in a nutshell, the actual difference of the TC-w3 forulation of the oils is about the same as the difference in ON-road diesel and OFF-road diesel.... one is supposedly better for the environment than the other, but does nothing to make the engine run better....
you may be able to get by with the wrong oil for awhile, but the wrong oil in a hard working air cooled engine will cause scoring of the cylinder walls and loss of compression (power, and the ability to start up)... and then you throw it away and get a new one....
you really only need to buy one oil for the all applications where 2 cycle oil is necessary.... the AIR COOLED formulation, as it is universal. the water cooled version is NOT.