does this look right?

Sep 25, 2011
161
Ericson 25+ Watkins Glen
haul out today and aft end of keel supporting boat, you can pass your hand under the front of keel should I be concerned?
boat sits high in the bow ,I mentioned this to the crew and only comment I got was ,water will drain better.....
this is a fin keel and the trailing edge is thin, and the weight of boat is resting on the trailing edge...

should I make a fuss and have them reposition it , or ?
your thoughts please
 

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Feb 20, 2011
8,062
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
For now, if they break it, have they bought it?

Maybe you could drive a wedge lightly under the leading edge?
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
how tight are your screw jacks and how many are there ....if the keel is sitting on the solid part of the keel it should be OK and the screw jacks can share the load up to a point .....i have mine sitting dead level but that was to do a lot of work inside replacing bulk heads and things like that
 
Jan 18, 2013
76
Hunter 340 Bayfield Ontario
You can block the cradle up to drain water if needed. I would want it spread over the keel.
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
For one thing, the keel should be sitting on a smaller piece like a 2x8 on top of the large blocks. That way you can check and see if the boat settled and the jacks aren't taking all the load. If the small block moves when you try to move it, it's time to adjust the jacks down.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,994
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Water draining is good. That's a requirement of a blocking up. I would think that to have the cockpit drain, the leading edge of the keel should be above the trailing. I don't think the weight of the hull being on the trailing edge of the keel will adversely effect the keel, or the hull but maybe.
Why not take a bucket of water and throw it in the cockpit and see if it drains quickly? If not you may have a beef. There's nothing wrong with asking the yard to place some wood under the leading bottom of the keel to support it.
Most of the weight of the boat is support by the keel block up so if you don't like it, you are within your rights as a customer to ask for a change. They should do it.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
...you are within your rights as a customer to ask for a change. They should do it.
But if they do as the non-knowledged customer asks, if it breaks, insurance will say it's the yard fault for doing something they knew was wrong- unless they get it in writing from the customer with a disclaimer by the yard.

I asked my marina to block part of the keel so I could sand and paint under it, then to move the blocks to the fore and aft-most positions. They said the aft end (like the PO's) could break. I took their word for it.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,994
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Uhm. So if the current block up ends up with damage to the keel or hull, the yard will pay for it? I'd take a lot of pictures because you could end up in a fight between your insurance company and the yard. You will most likely be the smallest pocket. Everyone involved would be better served by dialing back and finding an agreeable solution. Seriously.
 
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Sep 25, 2011
161
Ericson 25+ Watkins Glen
going back up in the morning and ask if they could reposition it, is a busy time of year up here in NY
They were definitely on a mission to move boats out of water today
 
Aug 2, 2005
1,155
Pearson 33-2 & Typhoon 18 Seneca Lake
We had a similar situation late this spring when our boat was moved to allow access to move a boat behind ours. The move left our boat resting heavily on the aft end of the keel. I pointed that out to the lift operator in a private conversation and he quickly made the appropriate changes to set the boat on the entire keel.

If an inboard powered boat: attempting to turn the prop and shaft when the transmission is in neutral might give you some indication of changes in hull shape due to weight on the aft end of the keel.

We will be hauled out on Tuesday, and you can bet I will be watching the whole process.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
I will bet you are OK. I like the suggestion about driving a wedge under the front of the keel. that should satisfy your concerns. Drive it in far enough so you have to snug up the front pads and now you will know you have some weight on the font of the keel.
 
Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
The 27's, and 29's have a hollow section at the aft end of the keel, not sure about the 25'. IF that is the case, not good..
 
Apr 11, 2010
992
Hunter 38 Whitehall MI
You don't tilt the boat in the cradle to provide for water drainage, you position boat evenly in the cradle and then put blocks under the cradle with small shims to produce the angle. And these shims are maybe 1/2 inch or so because you don't need that much slant to allow water run off. Your picture looks like there is very uneven pressure on your hull and that the boat is sitting very bow high in the cradle.
 
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Sep 25, 2011
161
Ericson 25+ Watkins Glen
No one there today, called and was told Monday , hope all will be ok till then,and hope they don't tack on an extra fee
 
Dec 29, 2008
806
Treworgy 65' LOA Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch St. Croix, Virgin Islands
Uhm. So if the current block up ends up with damage to the keel or hull, the yard will pay for it? I'd take a lot of pictures because you could end up in a fight between your insurance company and the yard. You will most likely be the smallest pocket. Everyone involved would be better served by dialing back and finding an agreeable solution. Seriously.
I'm with Shemandr. Besides, check your contract. Ours says the marina does not insure your boat, and damage is covered by your insurance. YMMV. I'd sure want that blocked so the load is spread across the keel.