34-36' boats with full showers, Head?? wide beam?

Jan 25, 2011
2,432
S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
I think a dedicated shower on a <38' would be a waste. The volumn could be used for something else. For your price range etc, check out the S2 11.0a. It has 6'2" head room starting from the companionway all the way to the V-berth. The shower is part of the head. You can stand up or you can sit on the head with the curtain wrapped around. 11' 11" beam. Only problem is there weren't many made and finding one in your area might be dicey....
 
Oct 5, 2013
66
Beneteau 343 Portland
at what size do sailboats start becoming equipped with a full shower that you can stand up and turn around in? I have looked at some 34 footers with a shower/head combination, but the shower was kinda small for a 6ft guy, and we have seen large boats (40+) with a full sized stand up shower.... are there any 34-36 footers equipped with a comfortable shower? how about 34-36ft boats with a 12ft beam?
My beneteau 343 has a standup shower and an 11.5' beam.
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
I'm not saying everyone needs the larger boat, but it sounds like in the future or maybe now, you want to be a liveaboard at least part of the year.

Regardless of the shape of the boat you find I'd still budget at least another $5000 into the equation that will be spent fairly quickly.

For us good efficient refrigeration and lots of solar power was a requirement and you probably aren't going to find that in a $30,000 boat so it most likly will have to be added along with other items if you plan on making it an efficient liveaboard,

Sum
Sum,
I know I would like more room INSIDE the boat, but as they get longer, they get wider and deeper, and more expensive to out haul out and have service work done below the waterline, more expensive to berth.. and bigger uses a bit more fuel.
a few dollars more here and a few dollars more there, i can see the cost of ownership creeping up another grand or more per year. but im sure this depends on how a person actually takes care of the upkeep on the boat

with all this in mind, and short of having a adequate boat yet, we still have the desire and the ability to try the liveaboard thing for a few years before we retire. we will then know whether this is something we want to do full time later on.... and we are NOT going to sell the house to do it...

I have been around boats all my life, and had my own boat since i was 13 years old... ive been employed on larger fishing/crabbing vessels, and had my own dive charter boat... I do have the skills, ability and desire to make a boat better than the condition its in when I purchase it , and I know without a doubt there will be additional costs after the purchase that I want or need to make.
there are no illusions here that it will take a couple handfuls of dollars to make the changes that i will make to get the boat in a condition that is comfortable for us. this will take at least 5k... i think closer to 10 over a couple of years. this is one reason my purchase budget is where it is.
no matter what boat I buy or how perfect it is, it wont be perfect for us..... until after Ive owned it for a couple of years.

my thoughts are, rather than purchasing thru a broker or dealer, I could get a better deal purchasing from a private party...

you may be right that I wont find the boat of our dreams for the purchase price im hoping for, but I gotta keep looking and learning about the smaller midsize sailboats before deciding to budget more money to the cause..:D
 
Aug 21, 2006
203
Pearson 367 Alexandria, VA
Look at the Pearson 365/367 - like you, a separate, usable shower was a key feature for us when we made our list of features of our next boat (Item 11 on our list of desirable features below). While some will say that separate shower space could be better used in the Saloon, we have found it to be a real plus, first as more comfortable shower and two as hanging locker for wet gear.

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/DesirableCharacter.htm

The head and shower are conveniently located far enough forward to be out of the way but close enough to the center of the boat to make the head usable under way.

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Drawing.htm

Scroll about half way down to see the shower on board the Pearson 365/367 – large, clean and easy to keep clean
http://www.sailingseadragon.com/TourSeaDragon.htm

A nice upgrade to the shower & head….
http://www.sailingseadragon.com/CreatureComforts.htm

As a plus, these boats are sturdy, readily available, and reasonably priced.

Enjoy your search
Garner
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
....I know I would like more room INSIDE the boat, but as they get longer, they get wider and deeper, and more expensive to out haul out and have service work done below the waterline, more expensive to berth.. and bigger uses a bit more fuel. .....
Where we are they don't charge by the foot to put the boat in or out and up to three trips a year in and out our included in the monthly rental, but I know that could be different someplace else and also know you won't be leaving the boat like we do on stands in a yard.

The difference in bottom paint on a 34-37 foot boat is pretty negligible, especially if you are doing it yourself which I feel you would be. If you went from 34-36 to 40 and above then yes I think you would be spending quite a bit more. The point I was trying to make is to get a boat in the 70's and 80's with a 12 foot beam in the price you are looking for it will probably have to be a 37-38 foot boat. The newer ones these guys are talking about will probably be 50,000+ for most of them and actually 75,000+.

....you may be right that I wont find the boat of our dreams for the purchase price im hoping for, but I gotta keep looking and learning about the smaller midsize sailboats before deciding to budget more money to the cause..:D
I do think you could find the boats of your dreams for the purchase price you are hoping for. They are out there and it sounds like you have a good plan. Similar to what we did. When we use the boat we are not interested in slipping it so we need the boat setup to be on the anchor for extended periods. That meant solar, efficient refrigeration, larger head holding tank, a more efficient galley and more water and fuel storage. Chances were if we bought a boat in the $50,000+ range and up a lot of that would still have to be done to it so we would of had to added that cost to the purchase price and we didn't have that kind of money to spend.

Starting with a $30,000+ boat or even less and doing the work yourself, as you and I do, you can have a new bottom paint job, new thru hull, new plumbing, a well insulated fridge, etc. for $12,000 to $15,000 and have an old boat that is pretty much all refitted to your needs and ready to take you where you want to go.

There is a guy in the yard there that got an insurance totaled Cabo Rico 38 for under $10,000. It had filled with water when out of the water and the water and diesel had saturated everything in the boat about 5 feet high. I saw the pictures. He has over time removed all the wood and cleaned and sanded it and refinished it and the boat now is the prettiest boat I've ever seen inside and the outside is becoming the same way. He installs and repairs medical equipment for a guy and goes on the road for a while and between jobs, sometimes a month or so, he lives and works on the boat in the yard. Soon he will be ready to go on his 'world cruise'.

Now this is an extreme case and I wouldn't of had that dedication to the job but the point is you might not find a deal of a lifetime boat that is perfect for $30,000 but for that and another $10,000 to $15,000 over time you could have a mighty nice one. Just try and get one the right size to begin with. If we had the mindset of becoming full time cruisers, won't happen, but if we did we could live on the the Endeavour pretty easily.

Our problem has been we live so far from the boat it isn't convenient to work on it a little now and a little next month and so on. For you that is probably different and you can use it to your benefit. Good luck,

Sum

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