please help identify this boat

[athollis]

Hi all,
I am new to boat ownership. I recently bought a project boat for something to do in my off time. I have no idea what year and model boat I bought. I know it is a 17 foot "daysailer", but I was not lucky enough to get a boat with a title, but what do you expect for $150. Please help me identify my boat. It will help during her restoration and application for title.

Also, If you have any ideas for paint type or color, I would love to hear them.

 

[CalebD]

Looks a bit like a Windjammer 17.
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5807

Go sailing now. Paint later.

 

[centerline]

its a 1961 oday daysailor.....

 

[Joe]

The good news is the trailer is worth three or four hundred.... What would be fantastic news is if the hull was not damaged and all the essential pieces: sails, rudder, centerboard, mast, are accounted for... those are the most expensive and often difficult to find pieces. Everything else... running and standing rigging, interior amenities, cosmetic damage, can easily be replaced (and probably should be anyway)without having to be particular to the boat.

There might be a stamp or I.D. plate somewhere near the rear of the boat... look under the inside edges where the deck joins the hull... But heck, for 150, if it has all the major parts and sails and you know how to put it together... it could be a sweet ride.

If you paint, don't use house hold paint or enamel... use a topside epoxy type... easiest and cheapest is the one part stuff, like Petit Easypoxy or Interlux Brightside. Remember,it's all in the surface preparation for a good paint job. I wouldn't get crazy color wise, stay with white hull and deck. Spritz it up with some color when you paint the boot strip and sheer stripe. Have fun... looks like a good project.

 

[tkanzler]

Does it even have to be titled? I don't see registration numbers on the bow, and it doesn't have an outboard, so it may be that it was never titled and registered, and may not have to be. Being unpowered and small, it also doesn't need permanent nav lights, and cheap battery powered flashlight-type nav lights would be adequate in case you find yourself still out after dark.

 

[Kermit]

Does it even have to be titled? I don't see registration numbers on the bow, and it doesn't have an outboard, so it may be that it was never titled and registered, and may not have to be. Being unpowered and small, it also doesn't need permanent nav lights, and cheap battery powered flashlight-type nav lights would be adequate in case you find yourself still out after dark.

I don't know what the boat is (other than a sailboat) but in South Carolina, all boats that are not human-powered, including sailboats, must be titled.
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/boating.html
Hope this helps.

 

[Merlin Clark]

If your gelcoat is in decent shape, I'd clean and wax the heck out of it rather than paint. No paint will hold up like gelcoat and once you paint it becomes an expensive maintenance cycle.
and cool boat, congrats!

 

[athollis]

its a 1961 oday daysailor.....

After getting some time to measure, I fount it 15' 9". The seats are shorter than those of oday sailer 17. I will be looking for the HIN tomorrow

 

[athollis]

Does it even have to be titled? I don't see registration numbers on the bow, and it doesn't have an outboard, so it may be that it was never titled and registered, and may not have to be. Being unpowered and small, it also doesn't need permanent nav lights, and cheap battery powered flashlight-type nav lights would be adequate in case you find yourself still out after dark.

It has some extremely faded marks on the side of the boat starting with MS. I believe there must be a title on record. Now getting it transferred to my name is a completely new problem. SC is strange like that...

 

[athollis]

The good news is the trailer is worth three or four hundred.... What would be fantastic news is if the hull was not damaged and all the essential pieces: sails, rudder, centerboard, mast, are accounted for... those are the most expensive and often difficult to find pieces. Everything else... running and standing rigging, interior amenities, cosmetic damage, can easily be replaced (and probably should be anyway)without having to be particular to the boat.



All parts are accounted for. The hull needs a patch on the transom and the glass is showing throughout the interior. It is gonna take some TLC, but looks like it could be seaworthy in just a few weeks.

 

[Joe]

All parts are accounted for. The hull needs a patch on the transom and the glass is showing throughout the interior. It is gonna take some TLC, but looks like it could be seaworthy in just a few weeks.

Excellent.... check with your state boating agency regarding registration.. In Calif. it's the Dept of Motor Vehicles and the regs are similar to the one mentioned by Kermit in So. Carolina. But no matter, if you don't know what it is you can get a number anyway... just say it's self made. If there are nav light requirements, there are inexpensive, portable, battery powered, three way nav lights... but heck... you're probably not going to need them.

You can paint the inside with marine enamel to cover the exposed glass, that's actually quite common... you can make a bondo type repair on the transom.... There's a lot of instruction on YouTube... and simply googling will get you what you want. There are quite a few bondo type marine repair products... 3M is the best known...real easy to use, just make sure you get the "sandable" versions.... if your damaged transom needs fiberglass work, check out "west systems" ... they're the best know in that area and they have lots of instructional videos on Utube.

If you have rigging questions, take a few pictures and post them here with your concerns and I'll bet you get a lot of help.... Sound like you're gonna have some fun...

 

[athollis]

Thanks for the advice. I am sure I will be asking lots of questions as this project moves forward

 

[athollis]

I started cleaning the boat today. I now see that the original finish is just about shot. The inside of the boat is mostly exposed glass now. I am just wondering what my options are for smoothing on the finish before repainting. I am also not sure about Gel coat. Most of my research has found that epoxy 2-part boat paint lasts longer. Any ideas?

 

[Joe]

I started cleaning the boat today. I now see that the original finish is just about shot. The inside of the boat is mostly exposed glass now. I am just wondering what my options are for smoothing on the finish before repainting. I am also not sure about Gel coat. Most of my research has found that epoxy 2-part boat paint lasts longer. Any ideas?

For the interior, on the rough fiberglass, I would just primer and paint with a brush. A single part epoxy, marine enamel or even Rustoleum over the primer would be satisfactory. Remember there will be gear and crew trampling about the interior... you don't need the fine smooth finish you'd want on the outside of the hull and deck.... for the epoxy paints, one or two part, the surface preparation is the most important phase... The two part stuff, like Interlux Perfection, has a great look but costs twice as much as the single part epoxy... and is a bit more labor intensive. There are lots of videos on YouTube put out by Interlux and Petit on how to use their products. I wouldn't mess with gel coat... the paint products are really nice.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

It's definitely not an O'Day DS. Could be an old Paceship.

 

[chuckwayne]

right: definitely not an O'Day DS from any year

 

[Brian S]

I would not use Bondo for the repair. My understanding is that Bondo absorbs water.

I'd probably use a 1 part polyurethane like Interlux Brightside or Pettit Easypoxy. The Interlux Interdeck gets good reviews for non-skid areas, as does Kiwigrip.

Brian

 

[Tom G P-21]

Tip for identifying a boat. You can search Sailboat data by length over all LOA. Putting in a 15-16 ft range you get 5 pages of results. On the third page, see link below, there are three that look like it may be your boat. Would need pictures from different angles of your boat to determine it. It might be; The pergrine 16 paceship, O'day osprey, or the Falcon 16 (my best guess). The first two have active groups and could help you if it is your boat. It looks like the wood coamings are missing on your boat (are there any holes in the fiberglass to mount them?

http://sailboatdata.com/firstpage.a...ortorder=asc&pagesize=30&btnSubmit=Go!&page=3

 

[athollis]

Tip for identifying a boat. You can search Sailboat data by length over all LOA. Putting in a 15-16 ft range you get 5 pages of results. On the third page, see link below, there are three that look like it may be your boat. Would need pictures from different angles of your boat to determine it. It might be; The pergrine 16 paceship, O'day osprey, or the Falcon 16 (my best guess). The first two have active groups and could help you if it is your boat. It looks like the wood coamings are missing on your boat (are there any holes in the fiberglass to mount them?

http://sailboatdata.com/firstpage.a...ortorder=asc&pagesize=30&btnSubmit=Go!&page=3

I am fairly certain it is the Oday osprey. I have researched it and the specs match almost perfectly. Also, the center-board raise handle Has ODAY Sailboats on it.

 

[athollis]

I have begun to patch the small holes. and sand the old paint down to prep for new paint. I do not want to get too far into this project until the DNR gets a look at the boat. They are responsible for registration and title for all boats in SC. When they are done looking, I will get back to sanding the deck and prepping for cockpit paint.

Has anyone had good experience working with interlux VC performance epoxy paint for the hull?

I was thinking saphire blue for the deck and I am looking at kiwigrip for the deck surface I will be walking on including in the cockpit. the texture should help hide flaws and blemished and make it easier to move around.