Rigging for jib furler

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May 11, 2013
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Newport 17 Sebago Lake
Does anyone have a picture or diagram of how a jib, with sail hanks, and the wire halyard, are attached to the 1) furling drum and 2) the swivel at the top? I can't figure out how both the wire halyard and the jib tack are attached, as there is only one connector. Same thing at the top. Does the wire halyard get pulled up by the jib halyard? Attached is a picture of the type of furler on my new boat.
 

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Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,321
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I would think it might be difficult to furl a hanked on jib. My guess is that the furling drum is designed to work with a sail that has the forestay sewn into the luff, connnected up top with a swivel.

Look for the manufacturer's name on the drum and then google for an owner's manual.
 
Mar 14, 2012
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Joe is right. Schaefer furlers of similar design require a head sail with a luff wire attached to the furling drum.

Ed
 
Oct 29, 2012
356
Catalina 30 TRBS MkII Milwaukee
Sails with "hanks", hank onto the forestay raised by the jib halyard.
Roller Furlers use a jib sail with a "luff tape" of a corresponding diameter to the furler extrutions, and is also hoisted by the jib halyard.
A "Stay Sail" has a wire luff, and is hoisted in the inner area of the fore-triangle.
 
Oct 29, 2012
356
Catalina 30 TRBS MkII Milwaukee
Sails with "hanks", hank onto the forestay raised by the jib halyard.
Roller Furlers use a jib sail with a "luff tape" of a corresponding diameter to the furler extrutions, and is also hoisted by the jib halyard.
A "Stay Sail" has a wire luff, and is hoisted in the inner area of the fore-triangle.
Other than the Stay Sail, the furled said is tacked to the furler, and the "hanked on" sails tacked to the bottom of the forestay stem fitting
 
May 11, 2013
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Newport 17 Sebago Lake
Can someone please describe this with a diagram perhaps. I don't know what some of your terminology means. My sail has both a wire running up, inside the sail, on the luff edge, but also has hanks. The manufacturer's website has directions for this kind of sail but no diagrams, so I am confused about how both can be used simultaneously. Do I remove the hanks when using the furler but put them back on when I want to run up the fore-stay?
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
I have a hank on storm sail like yours. Wire inside and hanks on it too.
I call it a storm sail just because it is small. I don't think it is actually made for my boat.
I used it last year a few times while trying to learn to sail.
My dock mate has a furler like in your picture. He has a for-stay and attaches the furler behind it. His head sail doesn't have hanks.
 
Oct 29, 2012
356
Catalina 30 TRBS MkII Milwaukee
Does anyone have a picture or diagram of how a jib, with sail hanks, and the wire halyard, are attached to the 1) furling drum and 2) the swivel at the top? I can't figure out how both the wire halyard and the jib tack are attached, as there is only one connector. Same thing at the top. Does the wire halyard get pulled up by the jib halyard? Attached is a picture of the type of furler on my new boat.
Your pic looks like it may be a Code Zero Spinnaker/Genaker/Staysail furler
Attached to a seperate pad-eye or sprint.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,321
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Can someone please describe this with a diagram perhaps. I don't know what some of your terminology means. My sail has both a wire running up, inside the sail, on the luff edge, but also has hanks. The manufacturer's website has directions for this kind of sail but no diagrams, so I am confused about how both can be used simultaneously. Do I remove the hanks when using the furler but put them back on when I want to run up the fore-stay?
What did the manufacturers say? If possible, you might give them a call for an explanation. Most boat manufacturers still in business will support their product... whether you're the original owner or not.

I agree that some of the comments so far are adding to you confusion. May I suggest you stay patient and perhaps try drawing a few diagrams of your own...just to help visualize what must occur. Remember, that for the lower furling unit to turn the piece that supports the sail, a wire sewn into the front edge or a dedicated extrusion that revolves around a static wire, there must be some type of swivelling connection at the top end. Look for that swivel and you may find your answer.

There, I said that without one confusing nautical term.
 
Jul 18, 2009
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marine clipper 21 ft santa ana Southern Lakes,Yukon
I thought the possibility exists that the furler may still work if the hanks are removed.
Someone gave me a furler that I have not used yet but im certain in reading the preliminary directions it stated that if my sail had the hanks and as well the wire/rope..??..sewn in that just to remove the hanks..
 
Oct 29, 2012
356
Catalina 30 TRBS MkII Milwaukee
Can someone please describe this with a diagram perhaps. I don't know what some of your terminology means. My sail has both a wire running up, inside the sail, on the luff edge, but also has hanks. The manufacturer's website has directions for this kind of sail but no diagrams, so I am confused about how both can be used simultaneously. Do I remove the hanks when using the furler but put them back on when I want to run up the fore-stay?
Perhaps you could give the name of the manufacturer of the furler, and the kind of sail you are trying to hoist ( like a storm, working, 110,135,150,drifter,etc.)
As said in earlier posts, your sail may be for the forestay, and the furler for a different sail. Sending us some pics or diagrams could help us help you.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
This type of furler is called a structural furler. Instead of a hard extrusion, it furls the sail around its luff. It's called structural because the boats forestay rotates and is part of the design. The foot must attach to that drum, and there has to be a top swivel that attaches to a small section of fixed forestay or the mast. You typically see them on boats in the mid-20 foot range and below. Their advantages are lower cost, light weight, and good sail shape. The downside is that you cannot reef the sail (open/close) and frankly they don't work super well, particuarlly furling in a good breeze.

Facnor makes several models currently. Althought yours is not a facnor, looking at the diagram might help you understand he one you have. I've sailed in boats with the facnor, and one things that REALLY helps is a newer sail with some stiffness and a good luff. Soft, bagged out sails really don't work we'll at all.

http://www.facnor.com/uk/products/stg_4t_wire_furler/default.asp
 
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