Hunter 23 genoa T-track installation

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Aug 8, 2012
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hunter 23 lake wallenpaupack
Hi,
Can anyone give me some advice on where i should install the genoa block T-tracks on a Hunter 23? I have the original stationary blocks. I recently purchased a CDI furler. Also, what brands would you recommend on a beer budget, and is 2ft. tracks adequate.

Thanks for any help...........Mark
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
presumably the manufacturer put the sheet lead block in an "average" location so it would work best for the most conditions. i'd center the new track on the old location fore and aft and keep it aligned port and starboard with the old block and parallel to the toe rail
 
Apr 19, 1999
1,670
Pearson Wanderer Titusville, Florida
Genoa track thoughts

Track location depends on your headsail. The fixed (factory) location was for the hank-on 110 working jib. If your headsail is larger than the stock 110, the track needs to be mounted farther aft. Otherwise, the forward portion of the track will never be used and all your hard work to install it will have beeen wasted.

The track should be positioned to maximize the range of movement for the genoa car. Moving the car aft makes the sheet pull the clew of the sail aft more than it pulls down. This tightens the foot of the sail and and loosens ("opens") the leech, allowing the headsail to spill air off the top and reduce its power. Moving the car forward has the opposite effect. HINT: Increasing headsail power is an effective way to counteract the notorious weather helm of the H23 caused by the large, powerful mainsail.

As a roller-reefing headsail is reefed, the clew moves up and forward, changing the angle to the sheet block and the trim of the sail (see above). Moving the car forward preserves the angle and helps maintain trim.

Regardless of the position of the genoa car on the track, the sheet must have a clear run from the clew of the sail to the turning block and from the block to the winch. The sheet should not chafe on the turnbuckles when close-hauled. The deck is cored, so you should drill oversize mounting holes for the track and plug with thickened epoxy (which doesn't drip onto your cushions...don't ask me how I know this) :redface:. When the epoxy cures, drill the correct size hole for the mounting bolts. If you can, get bolts that are just long enough to go through the nuts without protruding so you won't cut your scalp later when lounging belowdecks. Tape the deck before you mount the track for easy cleanup of any excess sealant that squeezes out.

Here's the deck of an H23 that was raced successfully for years (not mine). The forward track was set to sheet the stock 110 jib INSIDE the shrouds, while the aft track was set for 150 genoas and spinnakers.
 

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Follow wanderer's advice and location is right on. Make sure you caulk liberally and on the inside, use large washers to distribute the load along with nylon lock washers.

Dave Condon
 
Aug 5, 2009
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Hunter h23 Dallas Tx.
Follow Wanderers advice and you'll be fine. I have close up pictures of mine in my profile. This works well with my 135 Genoa
 
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hunter 23 lake wallenpaupack
Re: Genoa track thoughts

Thanks for your advice......i will definitely use it! Forgive me, I'm kind of new here, but are you the same Peter that designed a mast raising system for this boat? If so, would you mind sharing it with me? I tried looking in the archives but couldn't find it. Sounds like it's well liked...........either way, thanks again....Mark
 
Aug 8, 2012
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hunter 23 lake wallenpaupack
Thanks!.....from what i'm reading here you know your hunters!......Mark
 
Apr 27, 2010
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Hunter 23 Lake Wallenpaupack
I have tracks on my 23, that you could look at if you want. It is at Seeleys Landing. Mine came with the boat when I bought it as the 2nd owner. Obviously, wherever you place them, make sure that all the bolts will be accessible inside the cabin.
 
Apr 19, 1999
1,670
Pearson Wanderer Titusville, Florida
Follow wanderer's advice and location is right on. Make sure you caulk liberally and on the inside, use large washers to distribute the load along with nylon lock washers.

Dave Condon
Hi Crazy Dave, glad to see you're still around. I sold my H23 a few years ago. The Wanderer is a recent addition.

Peter
formerly H23 Raven
 
Apr 19, 1999
1,670
Pearson Wanderer Titusville, Florida
Thanks for your advice......i will definitely use it! Forgive me, I'm kind of new here, but are you the same Peter that designed a mast raising system for this boat? If so, would you mind sharing it with me? I tried looking in the archives but couldn't find it. Sounds like it's well liked...........either way, thanks again....Mark
Hi Mark,

Guilty as charged. Unfortunately the pictures were on a computer that died a few years ago but they should still be in the forum archives somewhere. If they're not, at least two other mast raising systems for the H23 were posted; look for one by Mark Major.

Mast raising has always been a challenge for the H23 because the mast is four or five feet taller than almost every other trailerable in the 20-24 ft range. In addition, the swept-back spreaders and fractional rig cause the shrouds to oppose the pull on the jib halyard or forestay as the mast nears vertical. It's not as easy to do as they make it look in the owners manual.

Peter
formerly H23 "Raven"
 
Apr 27, 2010
1,279
Hunter 23 Lake Wallenpaupack
Whatever you do for a mast raising system, I would try to fashion baby stays (bridle wires?) to support it sideways as you raise it - which isn't trivial on the 23, because the side decks are lower than the mast step, so to do it right you need supports for the lower end of these stays at the same height as the mast step (so they won't tighten as it is raised). I made some supports out of wood and threaded rod, though I suspect there are much better approaches. If you use the inverted V shaped design for a gin pole (which my prior owner did not do) you may not need these stays.
Peter is right - it is a pain to slide the mast back so it can be pinned to the mast base unless you have a few people.
 
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