I have this problem. I have a 37' Iriwn with bowsprit that takes her to 40'. There is no other place besides Edgewater to dock my boat, within a reasonable price. The marina is leased from the State, but they told me the owner can do what she wants with it, leasewise. Picture a letter E. The long side is the walkway on the hard, the fingers (there are 5 of them instead of 3 in the letter E) are lettered A, B, C, D, E. All are the same length except E dock, which is 1/4 the length of the others. A dock is closest to shore nd E dock is nearest the inlet. The docks are arranged so that the smallest boats are on A dock, the largest on E. E docks are 42' long, D docks are 36', C docks are 34. She will only rent me a dock on E dock, which is 12.5' wide. My boat is 11.5'. All docks are mediteranean style. She tells me through her manager that my boat will stick out to far on any other dock, so I have to use E. On C dock, there is a 37' Endeavour which does not have a bowsprit, so he only sticks out 4' or so. Also on C dock is a fishing boat which sticks out 4'. By sticking out, I mean there are poles 34 or 42 feet from the dock itself. They are freestanding in the water. On D dock there is a double wide that rents for $1600 and is at the farthest end of the dock. E dock is not across from it as it is 1/4 the length of E dock. The docks on E rent for $1472. On C, $900. On D, $1100. E dock is the first and closest to the inlet. We get horrendous surges, sometimes 7 to 10 times a season. One sunk three boats as the water can rise up to 3 feet (once, in 1911 or so, a surge wave came in that was estimated to be 30' high. It wiped out all the businesses on the shoreline. How can this happen on Lkae Erie? Picture a bathtub filled with water. The deep end is Buffalo at 200 feet. The shallow end is Toledo at 12' or so. Once in a blue moon, the wind will be out of hte south, pushing the water across to Canada. Then , if the wind shifts 180 degrees like it did in 1911, the water rushes to fill the hole it created.) I would prefer to rent the double wde on D dock but she won't let me. I qsked to dock at the very end of C dock, but she won't let me. Only E dock. Why? The big boats form the first line of defence for the waves and surges, somewhat protecting the other docks. What do you think?
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I think that the slip is rather narrow
But as far as surges are concerned we have them all the time on the Chesapeake. The strong south wind with a high tide can push three to four feet above normal high tide and a strong noth wind at low tide can push the water out to three or four feet below normal low tide. These "Surges" that you speak of are not monster waves that come in and raise the water levels in seconds, minutes perhaps but not such that a 37 foot boat can handle it. I am sure that you encounter large wakes that toss your boat more than these occasional surges. I would be more inclined to complain about the width of the slip, not the location. When I complained about a slip it was because three hours after high tide I couldn't get in or out of my slip because I was hard aground.
But as far as surges are concerned we have them all the time on the Chesapeake. The strong south wind with a high tide can push three to four feet above normal high tide and a strong noth wind at low tide can push the water out to three or four feet below normal low tide. These "Surges" that you speak of are not monster waves that come in and raise the water levels in seconds, minutes perhaps but not such that a 37 foot boat can handle it. I am sure that you encounter large wakes that toss your boat more than these occasional surges. I would be more inclined to complain about the width of the slip, not the location. When I complained about a slip it was because three hours after high tide I couldn't get in or out of my slip because I was hard aground.
Slip size
In my opinion, the slip is too narrow for your boat. You will need a delicate ballance of fenderboards and spring lines just to protect the hull in normal wakes. Anything more and line stretch will have your boat beating on the dock edges. Why not put the boat in the slip they assigned you and show the manager the actual conditionso you can request a wider slip?
In my opinion, the slip is too narrow for your boat. You will need a delicate ballance of fenderboards and spring lines just to protect the hull in normal wakes. Anything more and line stretch will have your boat beating on the dock edges. Why not put the boat in the slip they assigned you and show the manager the actual conditionso you can request a wider slip?
You have a steal. stop complaining
I've paid 2500 twice a year for less. If $1500 a year is too much then take the $1500 and make yourself a mooring. Then all you have to do is buy a solar panel or wind gen to keep your batteries topped off. Oh yea and you will have to row out every time you want to sail but after a while you will get good at loading all the provisions and folks and rowing out. Then you will need a place to keep the row boat or transport it every time. And don't forget to hire a diver each year to check your mooring. Then factor in the fact that you don't have a source of fresh water and you will have to haul that in the row boat......... the list goes on and on of what your $1500 gets you. You are paying 1500/365=$4.11/day!!!!! it is worth it.
I've paid 2500 twice a year for less. If $1500 a year is too much then take the $1500 and make yourself a mooring. Then all you have to do is buy a solar panel or wind gen to keep your batteries topped off. Oh yea and you will have to row out every time you want to sail but after a while you will get good at loading all the provisions and folks and rowing out. Then you will need a place to keep the row boat or transport it every time. And don't forget to hire a diver each year to check your mooring. Then factor in the fact that you don't have a source of fresh water and you will have to haul that in the row boat......... the list goes on and on of what your $1500 gets you. You are paying 1500/365=$4.11/day!!!!! it is worth it.
If you are looking...
...for protection from storm surge, the other boats are not going to give it to you. Rogue waves can happen in almost any large body of water. Even a small one, say 10 or 15 feet is going to devastate the entire area. If you don't like the slip, move. If you can't, forget it and spend more time on the water sailing. Whatever happens to your boat is covered by insurance, that's why you have it.
...for protection from storm surge, the other boats are not going to give it to you. Rogue waves can happen in almost any large body of water. Even a small one, say 10 or 15 feet is going to devastate the entire area. If you don't like the slip, move. If you can't, forget it and spend more time on the water sailing. Whatever happens to your boat is covered by insurance, that's why you have it.
i rented it anyway
I found out the 37'er on C dock is paying $100 more a season (6 months) than I am on E. There is nothing to bang against, unless you are on A 1 or 2, B 1 or 2, C 1 or 2, D 1 or 2 or E 1 as they are all agqainst the hard wall. All the other docks are med style. You enter and exit your boat from the rear, using a moveable ramp. There are no finger docks next to the boats at all. I solved the problem of movement last time by using 1/4 inch covered stainless wire rope in lieu of 1/2" dock lines. The boat doesn't move, and there is very little concern over tearing out a cleat. We shall see how hard it is to dock this beast. As for moving, there is no choice. Fairport Harbor is 38 miles away, and that makes it difficult with the other things in my life, like the two cats my daughter left as a present.
I found out the 37'er on C dock is paying $100 more a season (6 months) than I am on E. There is nothing to bang against, unless you are on A 1 or 2, B 1 or 2, C 1 or 2, D 1 or 2 or E 1 as they are all agqainst the hard wall. All the other docks are med style. You enter and exit your boat from the rear, using a moveable ramp. There are no finger docks next to the boats at all. I solved the problem of movement last time by using 1/4 inch covered stainless wire rope in lieu of 1/2" dock lines. The boat doesn't move, and there is very little concern over tearing out a cleat. We shall see how hard it is to dock this beast. As for moving, there is no choice. Fairport Harbor is 38 miles away, and that makes it difficult with the other things in my life, like the two cats my daughter left as a present.
The Bull
Your talking of Fairport is a cruise . I could drive 15 miles less to where you are , but wont even consider with the congestion and chaoas , but then we all have our priorities . Meow
Your talking of Fairport is a cruise . I could drive 15 miles less to where you are , but wont even consider with the congestion and chaoas , but then we all have our priorities . Meow
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