Hello, I am a first time owner of a older catalina 22. The exterior wood needs refinishing. What is the best product to stain the wood with to ensure protection and give longevity. Thanks Darin
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Pete
Pick a path
Either teak oil or clear coat. If you go the oil route, the marine stores sell refinishing kits with teak cleaner and oil. If you go the clear coat route, sand and pick out some clear polyurethane. The two part polyurethanes seemed to last longer on my boat. I didn't do it long enough to have a favorite brand. Good luck!
Either teak oil or clear coat. If you go the oil route, the marine stores sell refinishing kits with teak cleaner and oil. If you go the clear coat route, sand and pick out some clear polyurethane. The two part polyurethanes seemed to last longer on my boat. I didn't do it long enough to have a favorite brand. Good luck!
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Pete
Cetol Light
I like Cetol Light. It looks almost as good as varnish and is a heck of a lot easier to keep up. Put on three coats. Lightly sand and add a coat each year thereafter.
I like Cetol Light. It looks almost as good as varnish and is a heck of a lot easier to keep up. Put on three coats. Lightly sand and add a coat each year thereafter.
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Charlie
teak finish
Hi Darin, My first boat was a 22 and the teak was in bad shape. In the fall when the boat was in my back yard I removed all of the teak. Why? because I felt that I needed to rebed everything. When it would rain black streaks would run down from between the trim on the coach house. The good news is that once I finished the job I did not need to recoat it again for three years. First thing to do is to purchase a teak cleaner. The only one that really works is the two part procedure. Part A is an acid and part B is the neutralizer. This is the best that I have ever used and is avaiable at West Marine or Boat US. The problem with this is that when you wash it with water, final procedure, this black cunk, wax, slim.and everything else that was on this wood is removed. When it drys it is white! If you don't take the teak off you will need lots of water to wash the decks so that you don't stain everything. With this completed I agree with the last writer,ie Cetol light is the best. Put on a light coat and sand with 150 two more coats and then you are finished. buy a tube of bedding compond-- not 3m 5200 or any thing else that sticks hard. Bedding is the best because it will come off if you need to. It is avaiable at West Marine. If you follow this procedure you will NOT get paint on the hull and you will make sure that there are no leaks. After two years you can lightly sand and redo if necessary. If you want it to look nice you must keep it up and cover your boat in the winter. A little trick that I learned from a pro. ---- See if you can get your wife or girlfriend to part with one of her bottles of clear nail polish with the little brush inside. Remove the polish, clean and refill with cetol. When you see a nick or scratch paint it right away. good Luck Avec Plaisir Catalina 28MKII #555 Charlie
Hi Darin, My first boat was a 22 and the teak was in bad shape. In the fall when the boat was in my back yard I removed all of the teak. Why? because I felt that I needed to rebed everything. When it would rain black streaks would run down from between the trim on the coach house. The good news is that once I finished the job I did not need to recoat it again for three years. First thing to do is to purchase a teak cleaner. The only one that really works is the two part procedure. Part A is an acid and part B is the neutralizer. This is the best that I have ever used and is avaiable at West Marine or Boat US. The problem with this is that when you wash it with water, final procedure, this black cunk, wax, slim.and everything else that was on this wood is removed. When it drys it is white! If you don't take the teak off you will need lots of water to wash the decks so that you don't stain everything. With this completed I agree with the last writer,ie Cetol light is the best. Put on a light coat and sand with 150 two more coats and then you are finished. buy a tube of bedding compond-- not 3m 5200 or any thing else that sticks hard. Bedding is the best because it will come off if you need to. It is avaiable at West Marine. If you follow this procedure you will NOT get paint on the hull and you will make sure that there are no leaks. After two years you can lightly sand and redo if necessary. If you want it to look nice you must keep it up and cover your boat in the winter. A little trick that I learned from a pro. ---- See if you can get your wife or girlfriend to part with one of her bottles of clear nail polish with the little brush inside. Remove the polish, clean and refill with cetol. When you see a nick or scratch paint it right away. good Luck Avec Plaisir Catalina 28MKII #555 Charlie
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BW
Sikkens Cetrol Light
I agree with the Cetrol Light posters. Works great, looks great, just light sanding and application of one coat each year.
I agree with the Cetrol Light posters. Works great, looks great, just light sanding and application of one coat each year.
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LaDonna Bubak - CatalinaOwners
Check it out before you use Cetol
Cetol has a very distinctive (that's being generous!) look so check out a boat using Cetol before using it. If you want that beautiful deep varnish look, there are a variety of products that are most labor intensive than Cetol but supposedly last just as long (Bristol is the first that comes to mind). Personally, I would rather work on my brightwork on a windless day than anything else I can think of so I went the varnish route. Love it! LaDonna
Cetol has a very distinctive (that's being generous!) look so check out a boat using Cetol before using it. If you want that beautiful deep varnish look, there are a variety of products that are most labor intensive than Cetol but supposedly last just as long (Bristol is the first that comes to mind). Personally, I would rather work on my brightwork on a windless day than anything else I can think of so I went the varnish route. Love it! LaDonna
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gary jensen
Great luck with Armada
Four years ago, I did my 36 Catalina with "Armada". I was more than happy..It lasts very well and looked great. It came highly recommended by two different retailers. Last year I sold the 36. When it showed, the wood looked as if I had just done it.I had a 27 O'Day and the 36 Catalina for the last twenty years. Up until I got the Armada, varnishing , taping, and sanding were bi-annual events.I missed many days sailing because of bright work. Although I like good looking wood on my boat, brightwork lags far behind sailing...........
Four years ago, I did my 36 Catalina with "Armada". I was more than happy..It lasts very well and looked great. It came highly recommended by two different retailers. Last year I sold the 36. When it showed, the wood looked as if I had just done it.I had a 27 O'Day and the 36 Catalina for the last twenty years. Up until I got the Armada, varnishing , taping, and sanding were bi-annual events.I missed many days sailing because of bright work. Although I like good looking wood on my boat, brightwork lags far behind sailing...........
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Rob Rich
Teak Work
Darin, Your question was actually about stain, so I will answer that first. Stain is really a personal choice. Whatever color you prefer is the color you should use. Do remember that several coats of varnish will slightly darken the stain, however. I have had good luck with Polyshades Honey Pine, a really light stain. But I also like the look of the teak without any stain, just varnish. Which brings me to varnish. There are two types of sailors - those who use varnish and those who don't. They probably don't sail much different from one another, and you probably can't pick them out in a crowd. But when you pass their boats, you can clearly see which wood looks the best. Like LaDonna said, Cetol has a distinctive look about it. Many say it is an orangey kind of hue. All I know is that it does not look like varnish (which allows the wood to glow), and it is just about as much work. If you really want your wood to look like a million bucks, go with a standard varnish. I have used West Marine's Skipper's Varnish with fantastic results. Start with a solution of 50 percent varnish, and 50 percent mineral spirits. Do a couple coats of that to seal the wood. Then increase the varnish with succesive coats, until you are using 100 percent varnish. Remember to keep coats as thin as possible. The thinner the coats, the less sanding between them. 8 to 10 coats should do you fine. If you take the teak off the boat, you don't lose any sailing time, which is why I remove the teak when I work on it. It is also easier to apply varnish this way, and of course you don't spill any on the deck. In the end, it is all a matter of what you like to look at. I love varnish, its smell, and its beautiful luster. And without sounding snooty (which I doubt anyone will ever accuse me of)it is a small part of what makes any boat into a yacht. Also, there is a reason it has been around for a few centuries... For more opinions you can check the archives... just look up the word teak. Best Regards, and have fun! Rob
Darin, Your question was actually about stain, so I will answer that first. Stain is really a personal choice. Whatever color you prefer is the color you should use. Do remember that several coats of varnish will slightly darken the stain, however. I have had good luck with Polyshades Honey Pine, a really light stain. But I also like the look of the teak without any stain, just varnish. Which brings me to varnish. There are two types of sailors - those who use varnish and those who don't. They probably don't sail much different from one another, and you probably can't pick them out in a crowd. But when you pass their boats, you can clearly see which wood looks the best. Like LaDonna said, Cetol has a distinctive look about it. Many say it is an orangey kind of hue. All I know is that it does not look like varnish (which allows the wood to glow), and it is just about as much work. If you really want your wood to look like a million bucks, go with a standard varnish. I have used West Marine's Skipper's Varnish with fantastic results. Start with a solution of 50 percent varnish, and 50 percent mineral spirits. Do a couple coats of that to seal the wood. Then increase the varnish with succesive coats, until you are using 100 percent varnish. Remember to keep coats as thin as possible. The thinner the coats, the less sanding between them. 8 to 10 coats should do you fine. If you take the teak off the boat, you don't lose any sailing time, which is why I remove the teak when I work on it. It is also easier to apply varnish this way, and of course you don't spill any on the deck. In the end, it is all a matter of what you like to look at. I love varnish, its smell, and its beautiful luster. And without sounding snooty (which I doubt anyone will ever accuse me of)it is a small part of what makes any boat into a yacht. Also, there is a reason it has been around for a few centuries... For more opinions you can check the archives... just look up the word teak. Best Regards, and have fun! Rob
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