Wire, Rope, Who knows???

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Bob

To say my wife and I are at the beginning of the learning curve when it comes to sailing, is generous at best. We have a lot to learn, and your all helping. Thanks! Can anyone tell me what the benefit(s) of having a wire/rope halyard as opposed to a just rope (maybe Sta-Set X) Halyard is?? I haven't paid a lot of attention to the rigging yet, mostly because of the weather, but its something I need to get a handle on sometimes soon. Spring is coming..........Realy....no, I'm not kidding it is, really!!1
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Birch Bay Washington
I think the theory is

that it stretches less but on a small boat, I doubt it matters that much.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Zip

No need any more with low-stretch rope. Rick D.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Terminology.

Are you asking because there is some "wire rope" on your boat? Or is there confusion over the term "wire"? I have sailed on boats where wire was used for running rigging. But my own boat and most(if not all) in my marina use rope for running rigging. I tend to rely on the chart in the West Marine catalog. And yes, my four halyards are all Sta Set X. And Rick is right, they make very low stretch rope. In fact that is what I will use when I replace my wire lifelines.
 
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Bob

terminology

My main is part rope and part wire, and I am just not sure how old it is or what condition the splice is in, so my inclination is to replace it, with just rope, and it seems that the wire is an older tecnology, new (les stretchy) ropes are better?
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
If No Meathooks

...(Burrs on the wire) and if the splice looks OK, it probably is. However, I would suggest you consider going rope, a low stretch variety such as advertised on this site (See the tab marked Chandlery). Rick D.
 
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Eric

halyard sheaves

Just be aware that if you switch to rope halyards you'll need to replace your masthead sheaves with sheaves that are designed for rope.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Eric Has A Good Point

Some sheaves were strictly for wire. Others (later ones) are dual-purpose. Rick D.
 
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Bob

Main Halyard, 1976 30'

Does anyone know what the length of the main halyard for a 1976 30" is, or are there 207 different sizes for that boat?
 
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Eric

main halyard

Bob, when I replaced the halyards last spring on my '78 H30, I fastened one end of a 100' tape measure to the halyard and ran it all the way up to the masthead. Just make sure you don't pull it over the sheave, or you'll have a hard time getting it back. That's the best way to determine what halyard length you need. You'll need to know three dimensions: a) boom to masthead b) masthead to deck c) base of mast to cockpit (if your halyards run to the cockpit) Add these three together, and that's how much length you'll need. Just for reference, the mast on my '78 measures 38' from masthead to deck. I have no idea whether either my mast or yours is the original, so the best bet is just to measure it.
 

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Sep 27, 2008
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Hunter 37c Tampa
no body has mentioned the new stuff.

We are in a new age for rope now. how bout spectra or other new synthetics . no streach and you can use a smaller dia. thats stronger. they even use the stuff for standing rigging on some race boats!
 
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