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[Brian Hofler]

This spring I bought the rubber gasket and filling strips and tool from Vega Marin in Sweden. It is important to get gaskets with the right size of groove. I had a local glass company put in the new gaskets and strongly advise you to get a professional to do the job. Someone accustomed to putting in car windshields will be fine. It is a very sweaty tough job. Also, if there are any leaks afterward, they fix them, not you. Make sure they guarantee leakproof before you hire them.
John Sprague, Salt Spring Island, B.C., Flagfish no. 1492
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[vsschreffler]

I have heard stories of the windows failing and wondered if the
failure was in the window or the frame--glass or the mounting?

The Vega Spares option with machined aluminium suggests that the point
of vulnerability was the frame or mounting. Is this accurate?Spring apporaches--there's only about a mile of ice between Blue Fin
and open water!Victor

 

[stevebirch2002]

Hi Victor

Obviously I am biased as I sell the windows!

The standard Vega windows are mounted in rubber and the glass is actually smaller that the aperture. This means that the glass is only as strong as the rubber surround. If a large, pwerful wave hits the side large window it can push the window straight into the main cabin. There are accounts of this, See "Out of the Lue" by Anne Miller and Berserk Video. Both of these had teh same thing happen and in teh case of Berserk they even had storm boards over the main windows with just a small hole for light but even this allowed the windows to be pushed in.

The new Vega windows have the glass inside an alumium frame so this cannot happen. If a large and powerful enough wave hits then mabye the glass would break but it cannot push the whole glass into the cabin.

As I say I am biased as I sell and make the windows.

Kind Regards Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703

 

[lastgaspid]

Steve, I noticed your note to Victor. You're right except for the SeriesIII Vegas. As you know I have been searching for window gasket for THE LASTGASP since last July and have finally found a source for the gasket that accepts a window glass that is larger than the aperture. It appears to be the stock gasket profile. You may want to begin offering this opportunity through your WEB site . As you do offer both gasket and the aluminum frame, the gasket wasn't adequate for the SeriesIII.

Dave
V3233

 

[stevebirch2002]

Hi Dave

Well done on obtaining the gasket for the 3000 Series Vega. Dave is correct in that the glass is actually larger than the aperture in the Series III Vega. The window is still only as strong as the rubber gasket though.

I would be happy to offer theSeries III gasket if I could get it here in the UK. Let me know the code number etc and I will do some more searching here in the UK.

Well done Dave - perserverence counts!!

Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703

 

[lastgaspid]

Steve, the gasket can be found manufactured by Trelleborg in Sweden and retailed by Kuntze in Stockholm. The profile is "Z-List". I cannot take credit for the find as it was accomplished through much effort by and comminication with Lars Lemby in Sweden. I have not had the opportunity to install it yet as the weather has not been accommodating. I hope to do it soon and get back to Lars. The profile is exact though.

Dave
V3233

 

[florance.anderson]

How much would the windows cost for my 1977 Vega hull # 3278? The port side
window gasket is leaking quite a bit now plus all the rubber gaskets are in
terrible shape. It rubs off on our legs, leaving black marks. We tried
putting a sealant on them but it didn't help for long and looks bad.

We plan to do a few blue water day cruises this year but not many. Which
window replacements would be best? The glass for the windows may not need
replacing. It is clear and no cracks.



Florance Anderson
SALT

 

[pjacobs55]

Concerning the windows, I just reinstalled the two large windows. I had no luck at all with the technique of installing the rubber into the frame first and then easing the window into the rubber. Even with 3 people, at some point or another the rubber was pushed off the frame. I tried the "rope" technique and that worked quite well. Were I doing it again I would leave an inch or so of overlap (extra length) of rubber seal and then when the window was about all the way in try to work that rubber into the frame.

I did find an extremely useful tool to be a set of plastic bicycle tire "irons", handy for easing the rubber onto the window particularly in the corners. My wife came up with that idea, both obvious and brilliant. I also used a lot of silicone spray and a spray bottle of soapy water.Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
111 Commercial St.
Portland ME 04101
207/772-2191
Fax 207/774-3940

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[dougpol1]

I don't think windows that open are worth doing. There is good for
and aft ventilation when at anchor and cross ventilation does not
work as the bow lays into the wind. In a Marina I use a small
electric fan. I also have a wind scoop to that was cheap and
excellent to cool the cabin. I also have a 12 volt fan by 11 oclock
at night a fan is no longer needed. You are talking about spending a
lot of money for very little results.. Doug

 

[wisdomracing]

I'd say if there is for some reason a need to replace the windows, opening portholes are a fairly economical option. I have three Lewmar opening portholes (one facing the cockpit) and a Lewmar 12x12 hatch in the cabin on the Vega I recently purchased and am very pleased. Might be the novelty, but I intend on adding at least a couple more. Purchasing used on ebay or via another means will save lots of money. If buying new, I'd probably go with www.newfoundmetals.comMine had all the original stuff glassed in. If I were doing it myself I'd probably leave the v-berth windows in place and just add opening ones to the main cabin.Jacob