Winch Change

Mike 1

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Sep 19, 2010
62
Hunter h27 Sandusky,Ohio
I am looking to swap out my lewmar #7 winches with a pair of self tailors on my '82 H27. I was able to get the 16st's at WM this weekend with the buy one get one. Just curious if anyone has made this swap. I know the new ones are slightly larger and I am curious how they fit on the fiberglass pad that is molding into the cockpit.

Thanks!
Mike
 
May 24, 2004
7,174
CC 30 South Florida
I replaced winches on an h27 Cherubini many moons ago with 2 speed Barients. They were indeed larger than the originals but fitted well on the pad with a slight overlap. If I recall correctly I had to seal the old holes and drill new ones using large washers as a backing plate. I also had to move the snap shackle block along the rail to adjust the angle of the sheet as it loaded into the winch drum to prevent overlap. A wooden pad could have positioned the winch at a better angle but never got around to it.
 

Mike 1

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Sep 19, 2010
62
Hunter h27 Sandusky,Ohio
Good to know. I had figured that i would have to fill holes and drill new. I also planned on making a big backing plate. I did not think about a wood winch pad to change the angle. I will take a look at that option. I don't have the winches yet so I am in a holding pattern. Not to mention the boat is still in winter storage. Soon....I hope!
 
Jun 21, 2007
2,117
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
Regarding the sheeting angle for the primary winches, and that it affected by where on the toe rail the snatch block is located. Sorry that the attached picture quality leaves something to be desired, but it illustrates the solution on my Cherubini Hunter 36. A fixed position block is mounted on the toe rail at a spot that yields a good lead angle. The snatch block then can be moved fore/aft according to the jib size, whether is furled or not, and the wind condition. All without affecting the sheeting angle to the winch.

Pay good attention to the mounting instructions that will come with your new winches. Particularly that they need to be oriented according to the primary gear position. When I mounted my new winches (getting on 9 years ago), I noted the instruction. I mounted one correctly with the primary gear (say it was the starboard side winch -- can't remember now) oriented towards the toe rail. I then went in did the same on the other side. Just mirror it right? Oriented the primary gear side towards the toe rail. Later I realized that since the line always is wrapped around the drum from the right side, the port side winch primary gear needed to be oriented towards the cockpit. The mounting holes on my winches aren't spaced evenly around the base. So when I rotated the mis-mounted winch into the new position, I needed to drill holes in new locations. And fill the previous ones. Irritating error.
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Mike 1

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Sep 19, 2010
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Hunter h27 Sandusky,Ohio
That is a great point! I can see how that can happen very easily. I will measure twice or 3x and hopefully only drill once!