Wifi amplifiers.....

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
hello all
Wanting to get a wifi booster and see a nice package from defender. It's a PDQ AllPro and comes with router. Any input about what to look for with these??
Thanks
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Pratical sailor just had a review, clear as mud to me.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
I am guessing that not all of us get Practical Sailor and any way you can pass on
the info.
Nick
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
What I put together and ...



... what has worked up to 5 miles, but very slow at that distance. Faster connections up to a mile are possible. At the boat yard about 800 feet from their server I can run Netflix with no problems.

The info is here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor-navigation/Compter-Nav-index.html

...It is a little complicated if you aren't a computer person so if that would be the case I'd sure suggest going with someone that puts it all together for you in pretty much a plug and play package for just a bit more and supports it well like Island Time PC does...

http://islandtimepc.com/marine_wifi.html

They have a good product and great service (something Defender might not be able to offer),

Sumner
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300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
Endeavour 37 Mods...

MacGregor 26-S Mods...http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/endeavour-main/endeavour-index.html
Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
 
May 28, 2015
280
Catalina 385 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Can't say enough good things about my Bitstorm booster. Runs Netflix no problem, even over public wifi setups such as optimum wifi.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
what are your distance requirements? With a rotateable yagi antenna on the mast head you should be able to get upwards of 60 miles. what applications are you intending to run?
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
I've bought tons of things through Defender but advertising 20+ miles for the PDZ Connect AllPro ....

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028696|2029095&id=1794425

... is totally out of line. They are using the same Bullet radio I'm using and what a lot of others like Bitstorm and Island Time are using now or have used in the past. 5 miles is really pushing it with a good shore WiFi Hot Spot (not someone's house). WiFi is 2 way so they have to have as good equipment as you do for a really good long range connection.

The yagi is not going to work on a boat swinging on anchor and on waves rocking side to side,

Sumner
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300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
Endeavour 37 Mods...
MacGregor 26-S Mods...
Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
 
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NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Not looking for miles..... My harbor is surrounded by hotspots (optimum) and just need that additional umfffff. Been reading specs on many different units and they all throw out that 25 or so number.
Thanks for all the input!
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
NY Sail
I know your harbor very well and did live in Wading River for many years,but when up
on LI I always had a hard time out on my boat getting unsecured wifi and same here in Fl.
I try to do my computer stuff on shore when some place that has free wifi.
I am guessing when you are staying on your boat you like to have the internet like most of us,but find it crazy that you can get some unsecured wifi in that harbor but hey that's great for you.
Nick
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,810
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Vero Beach last winter with 2-3 boats per mooring ball and slips full : nobody on the mooring balls could get a signal. We had to sit at the marina office to email home. Vero Beach in April with open mooring balls and slips since most boaters had moved on : we could get WiFi at our mooring ball in the north field. My take is the boats streaming Netflix at the slips took all of the signal strength out of the system. Happened similarly in most of the places we stayed, more boats = less signal strength. Just our observation with no scientific data to support any of it, oh well.

All U Get
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,481
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I'm part of the group responsible for providing wifi access at our club. We're looking into limiting bandwidth for the reasons mentioned. Streaming movies and such really pulls down the available bandwidth for others. We have a crappy microwave internet provider to start with.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,080
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Made one several years back..worked fine but I got tired of the connection speeds, etc.. Now I use phone as hot spot for lap-top and have been really pleased. I use phone alone for most stuff, but some things are best with a real keyboard and screen.
 

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Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Made one several years back..worked fine but I got tired of the connection speeds, etc.. Now I use phone as hot spot for lap-top and have been really pleased. I use phone alone for most stuff, but some things are best with a real keyboard and screen.

I have a couple Alfa's like above that I use in motels and such and tried one of them side by side with the Bullet HP radio that I built for the boat. The Bullet will find connections the Alfa can't see and you will have better connection speeds with one and they last a lot longer out in the weather. More on the comparison here...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor-navigation/WiFi-1.html

The Alfa is much easier to setup and use so they have their place and if one is in a Marina I'd try it first...

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-802-11b-Wireless-Original-9dBi/dp/B001O9X9EU

... to see if it works as the cost is a lot lower.

I also have in the past used the phone as a Hot Spot but some phone plans prohibit that so quit. I bought a Straight Talk HotSpot...


http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpd...tent=25134-184150-42569-84&utm_term={keyword}

It costs about $45 for two months service with 3-4 gigs of usage and you can buy more at a Walmart at anytime, along with the HotSpot itself. I wanted it in case I was out of range of WiFi on a trip and needed to get good weather and other boating info. It works on Verizon towers so it is still not going to work everywhere.

I still try and use my boat's long distance WiFi first as there is no band width usage limits like most phone plans have. I was able to connect a lot of places in the Bahamas but not all with it and if I go back I'll get a Batelco account (data cards) and a cheap 'unlocked' phone to use as a Hot Spot while there,

Sumner
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300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
Endeavour 37 Mods...
MacGregor 26-S Mods...
Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
 
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NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Seadaddler..... Cable vision put hot spots all over the place that can be used by cable vision (optimum) subscribers. I have a weekend Mooring (slip at old mans) and can get a signal but it's weak and is inadequate for movies or other downloading
 
May 28, 2015
280
Catalina 385 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Seadaddler..... Cable vision put hot spots all over the place that can be used by cable vision (optimum) subscribers. I have a weekend Mooring (slip at old mans) and can get a signal but it's weak and is inadequate for movies or other downloading
NYSail: My Bitstorm does a better job with OptimumWifi from my mooring than it does with the marina wifi. Still not sure whether I'm just not getting the marina wifi setup properly but that said we stream Netflix over OptimumWifi using the Bitstorm pretty consistently.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
I head up north for July,August,Sept in my RV and park it on my stepson's property
out east and use a wifi booster I got from Bestbuy that their tech helped me pick the proper one for my system and thinking around $80,we are 50 yards from his house but the wifi
goes in and out maybe because interference in side the RV but if outside I get perfect wifi.
With the booster plugged into 110 outlet inside the RV we get great wifi and netflex and internent all works great.
Nick
 

End80

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Oct 30, 2015
78
Grampian 26 Tybee Island GA
I followed the instructions at http://blog.eboatlistings.com/installing-a-long-range-wifi-antenna-on-your-boat-in-about-an-hour/ with good results
It calls for:
* 12db Omni directional antenna
* The Ubiquiti Bullet 2HP
* Power over Ethernet adapter
* Cat 5 cable
* Wifi router

I used a 15db antna instead of the 12db they specified. It is only $60 on ebay, brand new and they still have 7 more left and free shipping http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wi-Fi-Omni-...ue-15dBi-2-4gHz-HD27311-5-Long-/122002125019?
I had also bought a used Bullet 2 (not an HP)
I already had the router and cable.
My total cost was under $100, and though I haven't really gone anywhere, I'm getting consistent public wifi in the back river where I was rarely able to connect at all before.