Why repower?
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Ross, you are missing the point
provide more HP is a good reason to repower. That was the intend of the thread. I know this old timer. He was retired and going down the coast to Fla with his dog. His 8 HP motor push his boat 4 knts. He was happy but the people waiting for bridges to open because the bridge tender was hold them closed for him to get there was another story!
provide more HP is a good reason to repower. That was the intend of the thread. I know this old timer. He was retired and going down the coast to Fla with his dog. His 8 HP motor push his boat 4 knts. He was happy but the people waiting for bridges to open because the bridge tender was hold them closed for him to get there was another story!
Waffle, your friend would be able to clear
the bridge from one mile out in fifteen minutes. I am sure that the bridge tender didn't hold the bridge open for boats that were a mile away. You must find better reasons for repowering than that example. I have never been able to travel fast enough by any means to please all of the people going down the same path. However I have always been able to please myself, the last time I checked that is all that matters.
the bridge from one mile out in fifteen minutes. I am sure that the bridge tender didn't hold the bridge open for boats that were a mile away. You must find better reasons for repowering than that example. I have never been able to travel fast enough by any means to please all of the people going down the same path. However I have always been able to please myself, the last time I checked that is all that matters.
Ross, it is a reason to repower
I will never convince you to do but a lot of people do. For the simple reason that the older boats are consider under powered by most cruiser. You are above that. I am sure you are sailing into every port on the east coast under sail alone. You have to consider the fact that most sailor don't have your pop-eye experience. Do you use spinach too when you get in trouble. Just joking. To each his own!
I will never convince you to do but a lot of people do. For the simple reason that the older boats are consider under powered by most cruiser. You are above that. I am sure you are sailing into every port on the east coast under sail alone. You have to consider the fact that most sailor don't have your pop-eye experience. Do you use spinach too when you get in trouble. Just joking. To each his own!
More power to everyone!
There is something to be said for the sailor who does not need an engine - look at the Pardeys who have cruised the world without one. There is something to be said about a nice, smooth running engine that has enough power to anything you ask of it. To each man his own can of spinach.
There is something to be said for the sailor who does not need an engine - look at the Pardeys who have cruised the world without one. There is something to be said about a nice, smooth running engine that has enough power to anything you ask of it. To each man his own can of spinach.
Waffle, If you want to be a motor sailor, you
will do fine. But if you decide to perfect your skills as a sailor then you must become more accepting of being constrained by the astronomical influence on this world in which we play and work.
will do fine. But if you decide to perfect your skills as a sailor then you must become more accepting of being constrained by the astronomical influence on this world in which we play and work.
Ross, If you want to be a motor sailor, you
I have been sailing over 30 year. My father and I have had 6 sailboats. I have taken coastal cruising, basic keelboatong, advance coastal nav and many other courses. I have extensive hands on sailing experience. I know why you need power to get in an inlet against strong current. I have no problem being called a motorsailor. I have the experience to know that is a compliment.
I have been sailing over 30 year. My father and I have had 6 sailboats. I have taken coastal cruising, basic keelboatong, advance coastal nav and many other courses. I have extensive hands on sailing experience. I know why you need power to get in an inlet against strong current. I have no problem being called a motorsailor. I have the experience to know that is a compliment.
Bridge tender playing God.
We and about three other boats were held up by a bridge tender here in FL because there was another sailboat with his sails up approaching the bridge. The bridge tender advised through the radio that he would not open the bridge until the sailboat lowered its canvas. Horns started going off and VHF traffic got less than civil but the bridge tender would not budge. The standoff was resolved when the sailor lowered his sails. Found out latter the bridge tender was acting within his authority but the moral of the story is you can circumnavigate the world without an engine but not the "Ditch" in South Florida"
We and about three other boats were held up by a bridge tender here in FL because there was another sailboat with his sails up approaching the bridge. The bridge tender advised through the radio that he would not open the bridge until the sailboat lowered its canvas. Horns started going off and VHF traffic got less than civil but the bridge tender would not budge. The standoff was resolved when the sailor lowered his sails. Found out latter the bridge tender was acting within his authority but the moral of the story is you can circumnavigate the world without an engine but not the "Ditch" in South Florida"
higgs to answer your question,
The advantages of repowering can be summed up in time, effort and cost. The majority of these engines that to use your words "are shot" usually have a number of problems, from cylinders that are so worn they have to be replaced to worn camshafts, oil pumps, valve train, crankshafts, corroded engine casings etc. Unless you have a reliable engine shop that will be able to accomodate a small diesel you'll end up either doing it yourself or trying to find a good, honest mechanic. Finding and purchasing all the needed parts at retail prices will be costly and a chalange. Delivering cylinder block, crankshaft, head and valve components to be machined and rectified and then collected can be time consuming. If you do it yourself you will be further dealing with corroded and stripped bolts, unexpected complications and aggravation. By the time you add up cost, time spent and effort and the additional advantages of repowering I would say there is no contest. A brand new engine comes with a warranty, it will be a more modern design and it will add more resale value to your boat than a rebuild. If money is the issue and if only a rebuild is in the budget then there is no question rebuild it is.
The advantages of repowering can be summed up in time, effort and cost. The majority of these engines that to use your words "are shot" usually have a number of problems, from cylinders that are so worn they have to be replaced to worn camshafts, oil pumps, valve train, crankshafts, corroded engine casings etc. Unless you have a reliable engine shop that will be able to accomodate a small diesel you'll end up either doing it yourself or trying to find a good, honest mechanic. Finding and purchasing all the needed parts at retail prices will be costly and a chalange. Delivering cylinder block, crankshaft, head and valve components to be machined and rectified and then collected can be time consuming. If you do it yourself you will be further dealing with corroded and stripped bolts, unexpected complications and aggravation. By the time you add up cost, time spent and effort and the additional advantages of repowering I would say there is no contest. A brand new engine comes with a warranty, it will be a more modern design and it will add more resale value to your boat than a rebuild. If money is the issue and if only a rebuild is in the budget then there is no question rebuild it is.
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Some of the "new fangled" things on newer engines introduce complexities that weren't there on the same engine, earlier models -- you know, things like alarms instead of gages or more gages instead of alarms. Of course, i jest. Here's a story about a rebuild of a diesel engine that is in wide use in Catalinas. Someone else could also have chosen to repower.
Some of the "new fangled" things on newer engines introduce complexities that weren't there on the same engine, earlier models -- you know, things like alarms instead of gages or more gages instead of alarms. Of course, i jest. Here's a story about a rebuild of a diesel engine that is in wide use in Catalinas. Someone else could also have chosen to repower.
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