Why a snap shackle for jib on furler?

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Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Sorry if this is a dumb question. It just seems to me that a D-type shackle like is used for the main halyard would work fine for a jib-on-furler halyard.
 

Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
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Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Most places quote a snap shackle for their jib halyards and

they (the shackles) are a several dollars more than a comparable D-type shackle. Just wondered if I really needed a $40 snap shackle :)
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
The only reason to use a snap shackle is for quick release

Do you want a quick release devise on any halyard? Or sheet or almost anywhere else?
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
If you are just...

going to bend on the sails for a season... D-shackle is fine. If you are changing sails all the time... something else may be more appropriate.
 

Manny

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Oct 5, 2006
983
Hunter 82? 37 Cutter Wherever the wind takes me
Why even use any hardware, why not just use a bowline?

nm
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,178
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
you're right!!

it's a waste of money and totally unnecessary, unless you need to open the shackle one handed or just want fancier hardware. A regular locking, halyard shackle (D shape) with removable head pin and capitive locking pin is the norm. That said, I have snap shackles on all three of my headsail halyards 'cause I like 'em. The main has a regular halyard shackle.
 
Jun 13, 2005
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Irwin Barefoot 37 CC Sloop Port Orchard WA
Snap shackles are normally put on halyards

for faster sail changes from the days of hanked on sails, no headfoils, and one jib halyard. You would have released the lower hanks on the existing sail and bend on the new sail in that area. you would then drop the sail switch the halyard to the new sail, detach the sail you just doused and set the new one. With so much to do it was necessary to have the snapshackle on the halyard. Then they went to double headfoils and single halyards so you still had to drop one sail, switch the halyard and hoist the second sail. Now we have double headfoils and double halyards so it is nowhere near as critical, but it is still convenient to use the snapshackle.There is no good reason however, why you would need one on a roller furling jib, so use a D shackle if you want to.
 
Jun 8, 2004
853
Pearson 26W Marblehead
Snap shackles

They are good for Quick release: movable snatch blocks etc: I agree with Manny and use only a bowline for halyards. Jib sheets too. A D shackle with captive pin is ok too. Your choice. And dont forget D shackles dont have any springs in em to fail. A long time ago I got whacked in the face by a flogging jib with a shackled sheets. That was the last time I used one.
 

Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Excellent feedback! My question was focused on the jib halyard as I always tie

With a furler, I could just tie the halyard on as bffatcat and Manny suggested since the halyard attaches to the upper furler swivel somewhat permanently. Thanks. May have saved me $50+ guys!
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Hunter 310 Herrington Harbour South, MD
The technical reason is

The technical reason is that the snap shackle can be opened quickly and UNDER LOAD. If you don't need to do either of these, then a D shackle is fine.
 

Sailm8

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Feb 21, 2008
1,750
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
On my previous boat

I had to actually remove the snap shackle in order to fully hoist the sail. With the shackle it interfered with the antiwrap device when the sail was hoisted. A knot solved the problem.
 
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