whodathunkit and lessons learned

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Sep 25, 2008
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Bristol 43.3 Perth Amboy
No good deed goes unpunished!
We may not have won the race, but we won the case!
I just had my first experience in small claims court.

I received an email last summer forwarded from someone looking to crew on the Marion Bermuda Race (3 days before the race). I had a drop out due to injury the week before the race and was somewhat interested. The individual was a self described experienced sailor, celestial navigator, long time boat owner. I gave him a call and spoke with him on the phone. He sounded pleasant. 75 yrs old, a physician and described himself as very active and in good shape. I was very specific in asking him about his physical condition. He said he played tennis actively, sailed, skied and scuba dived. I asked him if he was "nimble" and he said yes.

I was very clear when I told him I was interested but I'd have to meet him in Marion when we arrived for a Breakfast meeting with some of the other senior crew. I told him that was when the final decision would be made. Email on our yahoo group that he was invited on and responded to supported this. It was also explained that all expenses were to be shared and transportation was an individual's cost. Again, I was very clear that an in person interview was a must.

He shows just before lunch and did not fit his description. He is morbidly obese and not too steady. At the calm mooring he stumbles twice on deck. My 2 other crew are baffled. After being on board for about 15 minutes he says he has a lunch date with a friend.

We later inform him that he won't be part of our crew.


He proceeds to sue me (in a court in Maine) for an airplane ticket, hotel reservation, and a navigational chart said he bought on my behalf, over $800 in total plus court costs.

I surprised him and traveled from NJ to ME and successfully defended myself and was victorious. The judge was very fair. It took her about half a second to find in my favor.

If I ever find myself looking for new crew, I guess I'll have to have them fill out some sort of legal disclaimer! What nonsense!!

Anyone ever have this happen to them?
 
Oct 6, 2008
857
Hunter, Island Packet, Catalina, San Juan 26,38,22,23 Kettle Falls, Washington
Prime Time, Good for you. Some things are just too absurd, just too wrong to let stand unchallanged. I would have loved to see his face when you showed up for court. He probably relied on the distance and inconvenience for you to win his case.
Ray
 
Nov 23, 2011
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MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
I thought we were supposed to mature as we aged. What a selfish self centered thing to do. Odviously some live in a reality all to them selves.
I wonder what the judge would have come up with as a verdict if you were not there to defend your self.
I had the opportunity to defend my self against a trespassing charge for cutting my own lawn!
I won. What a waist of our tax dollars. I figure it cost tax payers over $1000 and tied up court time that could be better used.
Now I keep the other in my prayers.
 
Sep 25, 2008
544
Bristol 43.3 Perth Amboy
Small Claim Inequities

If I did not show up, or send a lawyer, it would have been an automatic judgement for the plaintiff if he showed up. No opportunity to respond in writing.

Talking with an attorney relative of mine, the state of Maine probably did not even have jurisdiction. Since he reached out to me by asking someone to forward his resume, it should have been heard in my state. It didn't make sense to challenge it though, since I'd have to show up to do that too or have a lawyer make a motion.

This truly shows one of the dangers of our judicial system. Anyone can sue anyone. File a form and pay a small fee and maybe win a big payday.
 
Dec 9, 2006
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Oday 22 Hickory, NC
finding41, please explain the tresspassing charge for cutting your own lawn, that had to be a doozie!
Jack
 
Jun 5, 2004
241
Catalina 30 MkII Foss Harbor Marina, Tacoma, WA
....had this been in the UK...he would be responsible for your defense expenses... makes too much sense.
 

MrBee

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Dec 30, 2008
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Irwin 34 Citation Middle River, Md.
Good for you showing up and winning.
You ever need crew I get a few weeks vacation a year and Won't missrep my self.

I crew for deliveries some times and can't for the life of me understand why anyone would misrepresent themselves. If anything I undersell my experience just to be sure the owner / Capt. gets more than they asked for and are satisfied with the job I do. I also ALWAYS let it be known that I am afraid of hights and am not sure I could go more than 10 feet up a mast if our lives depended on it. Ok , maybe not that Afraid but they need to know.

Wonder how his online dating profile reads !! Lol
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
You did have grounds for a counter suit.
 
Nov 23, 2011
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MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Hi Jackhartjr. About the trespass thing. I own 12" of property on the N side of my house. The neighbor to the N called the police. An officer came and saw I was cutting the grass. We had a nice chat and he left. No charge.
The next week I had to cut the lawn again! Who a thunk. Well police were called again. This time the officer saw me cutting the lawn. Seems a record of the first call from the week before had been kept in the system. So the officer told me that had been warned before.....See ware this is going. Charged!
I represented myself in court with property surveys and the city bi-laws in regards to property standards.
True, I stepped on her property and I did cut her grass. (My lawnmower is a 20".)
Judge threw out the charges and told me I am to notify my neighbor when I'm going to cut my lawn....(I know..?) So every spring I write a "To whom it may concern" letter stating, Please be advised of the ongoing maintenance to the property at ....This maintenance will be continue thorough the year.
This will be the 5 th year of writing stupid letters!
Have to say though. Not a peep from next door!
 
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