Who uses a Barney Post?

[MaryEllaRose]

I've been investigating a Barney post for my '22 but don't understand how the main sheet lines are rigged. Are they still attached to the aft traveler rail and the working end routed across the boom or does the main sheet block attach to the Barney post swivel and the aft traveler not used?

Any pictures would be be appreciated.

Thanx,
Tom G

 

[Jackdaw]

Like this. The post comes off the cockpit floor. There is a brace 1/2 way up between the walls that supports most of the load. The traveler remains in the same place.

 

[MaryEllaRose]

Thanx for the pic Jackdaw, that explains a lot. Just out of curiosity, what is the advantage to rigging back to the traveler? Couldn't one end the main sheet tackle be attached directly to the barney post and the other to the boom as shown in the pic? I have a 16' sailing dinghy whose main sheet tackle is rigged between a raised portion at the rear of the swing keel trunk and about 3/4 way back on the boom. It's real easy to handle, one hand on the tiller, the other on the main sheet. I was envisioning the same thing on the '22.

 

[Jackdaw]

Thanx for the pic Jackdaw, that explains a lot. Just out of curiosity, what is the advantage to rigging back to the traveler? Couldn't one end the main sheet tackle be attached directly to the barney post and the other to the boom as shown in the pic? I have a 16' sailing dinghy whose main sheet tackle is rigged between a raised portion at the rear of the swing keel trunk and about 3/4 way back on the boom. It's real easy to handle, one hand on the tiller, the other on the main sheet. I was envisioning the same thing on the '22.

If you did that, you would loose the effects of the traveler.

You need to bring the boom to the centerline of the boat to go effectively upwind. The only way to do this is to pull the traveler to the windward side. The mainsheet control on the barney post does not effect your ability to do this.

 

[sinnettc]

If you did that, you would loose the effects of the traveler.

You need to bring the boom to the centerline of the boat to go effectively to upwind. The only way to do this is to pull the traveler to the windward side. The mainsheet control on the barney post has not effect on your ability to do this.

Or you need to put a traveler in across the cockpit instead of a barney post. From experience I can tell you that, while it works fine, it likes to bite shins.

You can see it in the cockpit here in this photo.

 

[MaryEllaRose]

The post that I'm in the process of making will be a 16" tall, 3" square aluminum extrusion attached to a 10" square, 1/4" aluminum plate with screws from the bottom and reinforced aluminum brackets. The plate will be secured to the cockpit sole by through bolts at the corners, sandwiched to another 10" plate under the sole. A bb swivel base with cam cleat and ratchet block will be mounted on the top of the post on a 1/4" plate capping the post.
I thought about "outriggers" to brace each side of the post against the side of the cockpit, but my shins are in pretty bad shape so I nixed that idea in favor of the reinforced angle brackets. My concern is for flexing of the cockpit sole. As far as I can tell, the sole is in good shape, no soft spots, etc.
I'm inclined to attach the main sheet tackle directly between the post and the boom, for sake of simplicity, if nothing else. I've never sailed a boat with a main sheet traveler so maybe I don't know what I'm missing so with that in mind, I'll probably try it both ways. Since I'm used to sailing with the down wind hand on the tiller and the upwind hand on the main sheet, I'm trying to maintain my comfort zone.
Thanx for the pix, everyone. Any more is appreciated....

Tom G

 

[c22sailor]

Jackdaw, I am interested in doing my mainsheet the way yours is shown in your picture; with respect to using a line or cable from the traveler to the mainsheet block to shorten the amount of mainsheet required to trim the main. My question. In your picture it looks like there is a line connecting the backstay to the mainsheet block. Is this correct? If so, what is the purpose?

 

[Jackdaw]

Jackdaw, I am interested in doing my mainsheet the way yours is shown in your picture; with respect to using a line or cable from the traveler to the mainsheet block to shorten the amount of mainsheet required to trim the main. My question. In your picture it looks like there is a line connecting the backstay to the mainsheet block. Is this correct? If so, what is the purpose?

There is. I'm sure it is a length of shock cord. It is there to hold the lower block of the mainsheet up and out of the way when going downwind and the sheet is eased.

And yes, the practice of using a strop to shorten the line needed on a purchase is used all over boats; the biggest one being on vangs.