Whisker poles

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Jul 11, 2013
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Columbia 8.7 Potomac
Tell me about whisker poles.

I know they're for running, but I mean I need details about their use and usefulness.
I'd also like to know cautions and concerns.
Are they safe to use when soloing?
 

geehaw

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May 15, 2010
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O-day 25 shoal keel Valdez
I solo with mine and have no problems doing it. But problems I have which might get answered here is: Rubs on shrouds, Maybe I don't make it long enough. Rolls down sheet to far rubs on shroud. Greg
 
May 23, 2007
1,306
Catalina Capri 22 Albany, Oregon
Handy for downwind sailing. Mine is adjustable so it works with anything from the blade to the furling 155. Length generally set by trial & error.

For me, the danger going downwind isn't the whisker pole/genoa, it's the risk of getting too far by the lee, backwinding the jib, and having an uncontrolled jibe. That's bad news. Options are using a preventer or, in my case, keeping a hand on the main sheet so I can control it if it tries to come across on me.
 

foamy

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Dec 6, 2003
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Catalina 38 dana point california
Other uses

...and once at your destination, great to set up a flopper stopper abeam if you have a bumpy anchorage.

Also can tie off your dingy away from the hull too.
 
Sep 5, 2007
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MacGregor 26X Rochester
Not at all - I could furl and unfurl at-will, and the whisker pole would just sit on the sheet. With the length I normally used, the jib wouldn't quite furl all the way, but that's fine as the intent was to be able to rig it myself, with the jib furled, and then unfurl and sail or furl in preparation of coming about or whatever. I had a line-control pole, so if coming about I'd go forward, shorten the pole, move it to the other side of the forestay (and onto the other sheet), then extend it back out the foot or two it was missing by. I'd do this with the autohelm engaged, but the main sail down, so I was just coasting (in case I fell overboard when soloing). This was on a different boat, by the way, which required a heavy(ish) pole.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,622
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Does not having an unfurling jib make using one more difficult?
I don't see how.
The thing about off wind sailing and a pole is that the pole puts the clew of the jib closer to where it should be given the angle of the sail with respect to the wind. You just can't do that with moving the lead or even an outboard jib lead position. If you imagine the wind flowing over the sail upwind, that is what you would want to happen off the wind. Only, it can't happen with the clew sheeted to the deck in any off wind sailing angle greater than maybe 60 degrees. That's what a pole can do. You can maintain the sail acting as a foil off wind. This can work up to a beam reach when the sail/pole would be forward of the forestay. As we sail further off the wind the sails acts more like a barn door than a foil. But you can still have the jib acting as a foil because the front, maybe 1/3, can be to lee of the headstay and you will see from the tell tales that there is flow over that part of the sail. And with the pole fully extended more of the jib is presented as a barn door to the wind.
I'm a big fan of using a pole. And for cruising it can make a downwind leg so much less annoying from the jib flopping around.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
I don't see how.
The thing about off wind sailing and a pole is that the pole puts the clew of the jib closer to where it should be given the angle of the sail with respect to the wind. You just can't do that with moving the lead or even an outboard jib lead position. If you imagine the wind flowing over the sail upwind, that is what you would want to happen off the wind. Only, it can't happen with the clew sheeted to the deck in any off wind sailing angle greater than maybe 60 degrees. That's what a pole can do. You can maintain the sail acting as a foil off wind. This can work up to a beam reach when the sail/pole would be forward of the forestay. As we sail further off the wind the sails acts more like a barn door than a foil. But you can still have the jib acting as a foil because the front, maybe 1/3, can be to lee of the headstay and you will see from the tell tales that there is flow over that part of the sail. And with the pole fully extended more of the jib is presented as a barn door to the wind.
I'm a big fan of using a pole. And for cruising it can make a downwind leg so much less annoying from the jib flopping around.
What an excellent post by shemandr, great description!!!!!

You can do the same with a whisker pole and obtain increased jib benefit and efficiency when going upwind too.
A 'poled out' jib going upwind at less than close hauled will be better shaped along the foot, and if downhauled at the outboard end so that the jib's tack angle is close to the sail designers intentions (the angle that the luff makes with the foot) will have no 'adverse twist'.
Other than its easy to break a whisker/spinnaker pole when going upwind, especially if the boat heels over and the pole / foot of the sail goes underwater, you can really hold the curvature along the foot close to 'perfect'. Without a pole when the jib eased out, there is no physical way to hold the sail to its intended aerodynamic design shape.
In the 'olden days', racing rules permitted the use of a reaching strut (similar to a whisker pole but used for 'upwind' or close/broad reaching). For some obscure reason, in accordance with todays racing rules, the use of a jib 'pole' was eventually prohibited for use ON THE LEE SIDE of a boat and the reaching strut, etc. simply disappeared, probably because the old 'heavy' poles were slow to take down during close quarter maneuvering and thus were the cause of more than a few collisions.

The 'hoyt boom' is one of the only current 'jib pole' still being used with modest widespread usage; but only found on heavy 'cruising' boats and never found on 'racing boats'. The hoyt boom holds the proper TWIST (damn little !!!!) at all sailing angles !!!!!!!!

So, if youre on a long straight line tack and want to experience MUCH MUCH BETTER jib performance when at less than close hauled, try your whisker pole - to keep that correct foot shape of your jib; dont have/use a pole and you will ALWAYS have the foot section of a jib 'overtrimmed' (probably the reason that large LP jibs are 'passe' on modern maxed-out boats). Do so and you'll immediately start to strongly question the current 'vogue' discussions and recommendations about 'twist'.
The only thing with a poled-out jib (upwind or down wind) is ... have a means to quickly drop/disconnect the pole and be instantly ready to tack/gybe. Do have means to 'pull down' and also a means to 'pull up' on the outboard end of the pole to get the 'best' shape/speed. Set the poled-out 'shape' of the jib sail according to proper tell-tales flowing ... and you'll be 'flying'.
 
Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
I use a pole all the time with my 220% hank on drifter. There is no way to hold that sail shape even remotely correct on anything beyond close hauled (or what counts as close hauled with that sail, about 75deg off the wind). I can add as much as 2kts of boat speed in light air by poling that behemoth out on a beam reach...
 
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