I have a CS36T with a folding propeller that I want to replace. It makes alot of noise, which I assume is from getting stock, it is unpredictable in reverse, and I dread docking the boat. I am confused about what type I should get and appreciate any advice offered. I had a new yanmar 3jh4e engine installed a couple of years ago, I race on a recreational basis 5 or 6 times a year, and would really like some control in reverse and stopping power.
which propeller
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Check out Max Prop, Campbell Sailor Prop and the economical(comparatively) Kiwi Prop. If you email Norm at West by North,http://www.westbynorth.com he will give you the lowdown on all of them. I wish I had gone to a Kiwi but being budget conscious at the time I settled for a Campbell Sailor Prop and am very happy with it. Backing up is not an issue and for a fixed prop it is pretty low drag.
All mentioned are fine props. I like my max prop which replaced a fixed 3 blade. Significant light air performance improvement.
I am much closer to making a decision on which prop. The three contenders or the Campbell 3 blade, the kiwi, and the Max prop 3 blade feathering. I read a great review, by Maine Sail, on the Campbell and now leaning towards it. I would really like to here other people's experience with props. I have read mixed reviews about the kiwi so would be interested to hear about it.
I had a Max Prop installed at the beginning of the season and have been very pleased with its performance. It makes a big difference for me under sail. I also have had no issues reversing my boat into the slip. I have gotten in the habit of shifting the transmission into reverse BEFORE I get to the point of backing into the slip to make sure I have reverse.
it seems everyone that has installed a Max prop has been very happy with them. I am just trying to figure out if I can justify the price for one for my boat. I would like to know if anyone who has a Campbell Sailors prop fixed blade has noticed a drop in boat speed under sail in light air? Or how the kiwi prop compares....
I have had a 3 blade Max prop for the past fifteen years on two boats and what others have said positively about it are true. It is an amazing prop. What no one has mentioned is that the Max prop is a selling point when you are ready to sell your boat or trade it in. You can get your money back. I did on my previous boat. Check out some of the boat ads in the back of marine magazines.
You should also check out the Autoprop. It will achieve the desired thrust at a lower RPM and the pitch changes continuously based on the speed of the boat and the engine. I think is the most efficient, HOWEVER, it requires additional maintenance and inspection and lubricating the bearings on an annual basis if not sooner. And you will have to replace the bearings and seals every couple of years depending on the conditions.
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Lee
Just my 2 cents... My decision was between a KIWI and Campbell sailor 3 blade. My original prop when I purchased the boat was a 2 blade. I wanted better reverse and stopping power when docking. In the end... I just did not want anything mechanical(moving folding parts,under water) to be concerned about(probably out thinking things), felt less moving parts is less concerns. Anyway I went with the Campbell Sailor from North Props. Noticed vibration at the helm went away, much smoother than 2 blade.
Reverse and stopping much improved and unexpected result was the engine RPMs came up to spec which could never get out of the 2 blade. Hope this helps.. Just my experience. Trinity is a 1980 36ft Cherubini with a H202QM
Reverse and stopping much improved and unexpected result was the engine RPMs came up to spec which could never get out of the 2 blade. Hope this helps.. Just my experience. Trinity is a 1980 36ft Cherubini with a H202QM
Hi Joie,Do you think your boat speed under sail has been affected since you put on the Campbell sailer prop? Curry
I put a kiwi on when first launching boat in 06. Had problems engaging reverse after several months in silty river water. Pulled prop and went with original 3 blade. Kiwi was great about reworking prop with new seals on blades etc so I reinstalled the next season.
I get about 1 year of service out of the kiwi before it needs to be torn down cleaned and lubed. I have lubed in the water but still had problems - I think you just can't do a good enough job in the water.
I berth my boat stern in with normal current from the stern ,which keeps the kiwi blades splayed out and some force on prop. Facing into the current would likely alleviate some of the problems.
I like the performance of the kiwi under sail - I gain .5 to .7 knots under sail. I do lose about .5 knots motoring. I also like the kiwi in reverse as it works better than 3 blade.
The kiwi is easy to remove and install in the water - a 3 arm harbor freight wheel puller works well. It doesn't take long to clean and relube on the dock or in the shop. 3 blade is on now and has been for a year since I couldn't dive on it this year. If you haul every year go with the kiwi.
On a previous Newport 30, I had a Campbell 3 blade that was smooth and more power than two blade I took off. Didn't seem to affect sailing much.
I get about 1 year of service out of the kiwi before it needs to be torn down cleaned and lubed. I have lubed in the water but still had problems - I think you just can't do a good enough job in the water.
I berth my boat stern in with normal current from the stern ,which keeps the kiwi blades splayed out and some force on prop. Facing into the current would likely alleviate some of the problems.
I like the performance of the kiwi under sail - I gain .5 to .7 knots under sail. I do lose about .5 knots motoring. I also like the kiwi in reverse as it works better than 3 blade.
The kiwi is easy to remove and install in the water - a 3 arm harbor freight wheel puller works well. It doesn't take long to clean and relube on the dock or in the shop. 3 blade is on now and has been for a year since I couldn't dive on it this year. If you haul every year go with the kiwi.
On a previous Newport 30, I had a Campbell 3 blade that was smooth and more power than two blade I took off. Didn't seem to affect sailing much.
In regard to boat speed under sail.... I do not think there is any noticeable change.
The 2 blade surface area was a standard shape. The 3 blade Campbell sailor has a
slimmer profile and shape than a standard prop when placed side by side. I do not think I traded off any speed. I do not race, although I never like to have another sailboat catch up and yes I do always try to make ground on a sailboat if front of me
just saying
The 2 blade surface area was a standard shape. The 3 blade Campbell sailor has a
slimmer profile and shape than a standard prop when placed side by side. I do not think I traded off any speed. I do not race, although I never like to have another sailboat catch up and yes I do always try to make ground on a sailboat if front of me
just saying