What's inside the VHF antenna can

Jul 7, 2024
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Catalina 27 Lake Keowee
I am curious as to what is inside the VHF antenna - the can - and if I need to worry about it failing. I have the mast down on this new-to-me boat and can spend time to check it and replace it. I am thinking it could be a never-fail item. And I am curious. I struck out searching on the internet.
 

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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
It is a loading coil that makes the antenna act like it is much larger. There are of course more technical explanations, for me this is close enough.

Yes they can fail if water gets into the can or the connections corrode. Corrosion, even mild corrosion, can seriously affect the antenna's efficiency. And then there is the coax, it can and will degrade over time. Might as well replace that too.

This article may be helpful.

 

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Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Oh, the mystery of electronics.
Here is a brief on a VHF Coil that might illuminate your quandary.

If the wire is broken, it will not work as desired. If you can transmit a signal and be heard by another VHF radio, you're good.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
12,950
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
If the wire is broken, it will not work as desired. If you can transmit a signal and be heard by another VHF radio, you're good.
This is a gross simplification. There is quite a bit of science and engineering that goes into designing and installing an antenna. An antenna may work, but how well is it working? Another boat in the marina may hear you, but what about a boat 1 mile away or 10 miles away? What is the quality of the signal, is it all static or is the voice clear and understandable?

Antennas are also used for reception, a good quality antenna with a good low loss cable will receive weaker signals than an old antenna with old coax.

If you know any amateur radio enthusiasts, one of them would be gland to help you determine the condition of your antenna system and to help with any replacements. They will also have an Standing Wave Ratio (SWR) which is pretty definitive for determining antenna condition and efficiency.
 
Mar 6, 2008
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Catalina 1999 C36 MKII #1787 Coyote Point Marina, CA.
Continuity test failing does not indicate a failed antenna. My antenna has a capacitor in series with the coil. Only a SWR meter can indicate its health. If it is replaced it must be tuned after mast is reinstalled.
 
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They will also have an Standing Wave Ratio (SWR) which is pretty definitive for determining antenna condition and efficiency.
Yea, there's a lot of voodoo on this thread already. Dave is right. The loading coil must be in good condition. I've seen ones that were flooded and really hampered operation. An SWR meter is essential. Fortunately, they are quite inexpensive.

The loading coil adds inductive reactance to counter the capacitive reactance of the antenna, so the whole thing looks resistive to the cable, and no energy is reflected back, meaning, all of it is used to transmit/receive. A tuned whip without a loading coil at marine VHF frequencies would be impractically long.

You can get a VHF SWR meter on Amazon for about $40. A new Shakespeare 3' VHF whip is about $120. Cheap insurance.

Also, I've encountered many VHF radio problems caused by flooded (wet) coax cable. That's where the meter can help. A bit tougher to correct than a new whip. Make sure you use real self-amalgamating tape to seal connections outside, not just vinyl electrical tape. Or, use adhesive-lined heat shrink if possible. But make sure it's water tight.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Use a 1/4 wave whip without a loading coil. It’s somewhere around 22 inches long. 1/4 wave for ham 2meter is 19”. I actually use my marine vhf for ham 2 meter and it works quite well. (144-148 Mhz).