What's an "end tie"?

pupluv

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Nov 11, 2007
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Please forgive my ignorance but what is an "end tie"? I think it's like a slip except there's a float out to the boat on one side only (eg: the end of a set of slips)?

A web search brought me nothing relevant.

TIA!
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Exactly. The end of a set of docks, finger pier on one side, nothing on the other.Many multihulls are relegated to end ties
 
Aug 2, 2005
1,155
Pearson 33-2 & Typhoon 18 Seneca Lake
I was thinking......dress down Friday or business casual but those aren't really nautical, are they?
 

pupluv

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Nov 11, 2007
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Thanks all

Exactly. The end of a set of docks, finger pier on one side, nothing on the other.Many multihulls are relegated to end ties
Thanks all. A marina in Wilmington, CA is offering slips at $8.50 a foot and end ties at $7.50. It's pretty sheltered in this harbor so I think an end tie would be as good as a slip.

It's a good marina. Only thing I dislike about Wilmington is is that it's a long haul (2 miles maybe) out the channel to open water and the channel is full of container ships that honk at you as you tack back and forth across the channel.
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Thanks all. A marina in Wilmington, CA is offering slips at $8.50 a foot and end ties at $7.50. It's pretty sheltered in this harbor so I think an end tie would be as good as a slip.

It's a good marina. Only thing I dislike about Wilmington is is that it's a long haul (2 miles maybe) out the channel to open water and the channel is full of container ships that honk at you as you tack back and forth across the channel.
I have a 5 mile run, dead to weather usually, in a channel that's 60 feet wide. No ships though, although there is often a shrimp boat or two. Coming back is usually a down hill slide though;)
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,163
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
There's a reason the end tie is less expensive ... You'll find out pretty quick. Your boat is susceptible to the wake of every passing vessel and the little choppy wind waves that build up across the fetch of open water. This means you'll have to have a plethora of larger fenders.. which means your topsides will require extra maintenance to remove the inevitable marring.

Also, determine the predominant wind direction... if you have the entire end... no problem. However, if you are sharing it with another boat you'll have a greater challenge... not a bad thing... just know there will be different strategies based on wind direction.

If you're talking about a smaller boat... I'd rather have the double sided slip for an extra 25-35/mo.... it's just easier and more convenient. A large boat may not give you that choice.. because there is an inevitable shortage of large boat slips in socal.
 

pupluv

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Nov 11, 2007
90
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end ties

There's a reason the end tie is less expensive ... You'll find out pretty quick. Your boat is susceptible to the wake of every passing vessel and the little choppy wind waves that build up across the fetch of open water. This means you'll have to have a plethora of larger fenders.. which means your topsides will require extra maintenance to remove the inevitable marring.

Also, determine the predominant wind direction... if you have the entire end... no problem. However, if you are sharing it with another boat you'll have a greater challenge... not a bad thing... just know there will be different strategies based on wind direction.

If you're talking about a smaller boat... I'd rather have the double sided slip for an extra 25-35/mo.... it's just easier and more convenient. A large boat may not give you that choice.. because there is an inevitable shortage of large boat slips in socal.
I appreciate your thoughtful and detained response. I had not thought about wake from passing boats and chop. Those things are certainly things to consider.
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
I appreciate your thoughtful and detained response. I had not thought about wake from passing boats and chop. Those things are certainly things to consider.
You did say it's pretty sheltered in that harbor. Used to have a big tri on an end tie sort of open to the ICW- just needed solid spring lines and GOOD fenders.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,163
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
You must also check to see what the minimum charge is for each slip. For instance, you can put a 20 ft boat in a 25 ft slip.... but you must pay for 25 ft.. An end tie is traditional reserved for larger vessels. On a dock with opposing 25 ft slips, the end tie could accommodate at least 50ft. So, you must always find out the minimum charge for each slip... regardless of the per foot fee.

It sounds like you're probably checking out California Yacht Marina on the East Basin in L.A. Harbor. ... That is a large body of water where the big ships can turn around... There are also quite a few live aboards in that marina... which is not a bad thing... because they help with security... and it's nice to see familiar faces. But they don't leave the dock too much. If I remember there are quite a few old Chris Craft's, Choy Lee's and other Taiwanese classics.... To me however, the biggest negative is the 4 to 5 miles out to the LA light or the inside harbor where everyone sails.

If sailing the boat a lot was my focus, I would be more inclined to check what's available at Cabrillo Marina... even join the Cabrillo Yacht club.. it's very reasonable... Then you're right where all the action is.. you can get down there after work, sail in hurricane gulch late afternoon... park the boat... be home in time for Bonanza. At the other place you can putz around in the basin...but that will get old... and it will take nearly an hour to get out to the sailing area near the light, and an hour to get back.