What kind of sail is this???

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Sep 8, 2009
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Oday mariner snug harbor, rhode island
Hi,
I am thinking about buying new sails for my o'day mariner, but i'm not too sure what kind of sail this is. I know its a jib, but is it furling or hank on? The sail doesn't look like it has hank ons, and it looks like it has batins. :confused:

Thanks,
Andrew
 

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Manny

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Oct 5, 2006
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Hunter 82? 37 Cutter Wherever the wind takes me
Just my opinion but that really looks more like a main sail to me. Could the straps snap into sail slugs on the mast?

Manny
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
I'm with Manny cause it looks like it has battens also
 

Tom

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Sep 25, 2008
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Lancer 28 T Great Lakes
I'm thinking jib.

If it was a main the boom would be at an aufully strange angle wouldn't it??

tom
s/v GAIA
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Sorry Joe, but I disagree.. the tell tales are in the wrong location for a main, but the right one for a jib. Also, never saw a mainsail that used hanks to attach....and they'd be on the wrong side of the sail, as the luff of the main sail is shorter than the leech, these appear to be on the longer side of the sail, which is the case on a headsail, where the luff is the longest side of the sail.
it's the mainsail.

http://www.usmariner.org/popup.aspx?page_id=215&club_id=953644&module_id=50024&item_id=93754

try googling "o'day mariner sailboat" for a plethora of info... including the really good class association page I lifted this picture from.
 

CarlN

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Jan 4, 2009
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Ketch 55 Bristol, RI
Agree that it's the jib (actually a genoa - most Mariners had both a jib and genoa.). The genoas typically had short battens. If it was a main it would also have the Oday symbol and numbers.

The sail looks to be in pretty good shape. Have fun with the boat. I used to love sailing them.

Carl
 
Sep 8, 2009
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Oday mariner snug harbor, rhode island
Thanks For the input. Unfortunatly, the guy i'm buying the sails from knows nothing about sails, and hes a 6 hour drive away from me. There is also a main and genoa that would come with it so that also makes me think its a jib. Only $325 for all 3 sails. Take the chance and hope the work?
 

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RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Is there a WIRE embedded in the luff of this sail ???????

If so its a free-flying wire luff jib that is usually found on boats that can radically rake their masts while 'on-the-fly' (ILYA Scows, high speed planing boats, etc.). If a luff WIRE, its is NOT a 'hank-on' sail; and, those 'tabs' are to control the slacked fore/heastay from swinging around (out of control) when the forestay is loose and the jibstay (inside the luff) takes ALL the luff tension (usually by winch or Harken 'magic-box'). On smaller boats, many times there isnt any wire, letting the 'luff tape' take all the load (and then ultimately stretches out of shape/length). Such free & wire luffed headsails 'usually' have battens (at least small 'auxilliary' battens permanently sewn in to pockets). Such sails are usually cut VERY flat (little draft/camber) for high speed sailing ..... and will not be very good for beating into 'chop'

Nevertheless, you can add metal grommets and piston (bronze or 'plastic') hanks to make such a sail a 'hank-on' .... or cut off the luff sleeve (and battens) and apply/sew a 'continuous support tape' to make it into a 'rolling furled' sail --- easy to roll-in beyond the normal limit of 30% SA reduction due to its unusual 'flat' shape.

Other caution: such sails are usually cut with a 'straight luff' .... the geometry between the head of the sail and i ts tack is 'straight as an arrow' .... no smooth 'luff hollow' cut into the luff to compensate for 'stretching'/sagging forestay; so, ..... such sails are controlled usually by VERY 'bendable' masts and 'bodaceous' backstay tensioners.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
In the last set of 3 pics...

the numbered one evidently is the main. The one with the window is a head sail. In the third one it looks like piston hanks on the lower edge, making that one a head sail of some sort as well. MHO.

The price looks good and there's always this site, E-Bay or Craigslist if not what you wanted.
 
Aug 2, 2005
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pearson ariel grand rapids
I'd pick them up. They look to be clean, and while always hard to judge condition in photos, the wrinkles and folds seem to be standing up enough that the material looks stiff, not bed sheet soft. The concrete walk you see through the window looks the same color as the walk beside the sail, so it doesn't seem to be extremely yellowed. It's also laying down nicely, so it's not hardened.

Ken.
 
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