I have been taking sailing training on a Hunter 34. I am applying for my captains license, they require the tonage of the boat of training. I have all the other needed information, but the owner of the boat is unavailable to give me the gross tonage. Can you please assist me. Thank you so much. Howard Block
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Jim O'Brien
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Kenny Logsdon
Tonage may not be same as displacement
Please don't quote me on this, but I don't think a boats wieght is equal to its gross tonage. Rather, I believe gross tonage refers to the displacement plus potential cargo a specific boat can carry. Displacement would be the "empty" wieght of a boat. I think this may require further research. Good Luck Kenny H28.5 "St. Somewhere"
Please don't quote me on this, but I don't think a boats wieght is equal to its gross tonage. Rather, I believe gross tonage refers to the displacement plus potential cargo a specific boat can carry. Displacement would be the "empty" wieght of a boat. I think this may require further research. Good Luck Kenny H28.5 "St. Somewhere"
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Jay Hill
That's the Ticket!
For USCG license purposes, gross tons is designed weight of vessel and cargo. For sailing vessels, however, their capability is far greater than functional design, plus, there's the "displacement is given at half-load" theory that may or may not apply to Hunters since it is not specifically stated. If displacement is at 11,000 # +/- and could be rigged with any range of cruising gear for another 2-4K # the range for tonnage to use is still only 5-8 tons. The smallest license is 25 tons and USCG issues licenses based on experience on vessels. If I were you, I'd list this vessel as 6 tons and leave it at that. Unless you have experience on vessels over 42 feet, you will still get the 25 ton license.
For USCG license purposes, gross tons is designed weight of vessel and cargo. For sailing vessels, however, their capability is far greater than functional design, plus, there's the "displacement is given at half-load" theory that may or may not apply to Hunters since it is not specifically stated. If displacement is at 11,000 # +/- and could be rigged with any range of cruising gear for another 2-4K # the range for tonnage to use is still only 5-8 tons. The smallest license is 25 tons and USCG issues licenses based on experience on vessels. If I were you, I'd list this vessel as 6 tons and leave it at that. Unless you have experience on vessels over 42 feet, you will still get the 25 ton license.
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Mac Lindsay
H34 tonnage
Howard; I have a 1984 H31 which I had registerred. The registerred tonnage for my boat is 10.05. I have the deep draft model displacement at 9,700 lbs. The H34 deep draft at displacement of 11,820 lbs or shoal draft at 11,920lbs should give you a greater tonnage but you need to talk to an owner who has had his boat properly measured such as I did. Maybe talk to a boat surveyer and see if by chance he may have any info on the H34. regards , Mac Lindsay S.V. Kitkatla H31
Howard; I have a 1984 H31 which I had registerred. The registerred tonnage for my boat is 10.05. I have the deep draft model displacement at 9,700 lbs. The H34 deep draft at displacement of 11,820 lbs or shoal draft at 11,920lbs should give you a greater tonnage but you need to talk to an owner who has had his boat properly measured such as I did. Maybe talk to a boat surveyer and see if by chance he may have any info on the H34. regards , Mac Lindsay S.V. Kitkatla H31
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Ernie tetrault
Jay has the right idea
Jay is very very close to the truth. As a holder of a 100 ton license, and a graduate of the Maine Maritime Academy, I can tell you that displacement has nothing to do with rated tonnage. Rather, it is a reference to "cargo space". There is a formula for calculating your tonnage from standard measurements (i.e.: LOA, Draft, Beam) but it's at home in my notebooks and I am currently at work. I'll try to dig it up for you. I tend to agree with Jay in listing your tonnage as 6 tons, although it could concieveably be as much as 10 or 12. Also as Jay points out, the smallest license they issue is 25 ton, so in effect, your boat's tonnage is sort of a non-issue (for licensing purposes anyway).
Jay is very very close to the truth. As a holder of a 100 ton license, and a graduate of the Maine Maritime Academy, I can tell you that displacement has nothing to do with rated tonnage. Rather, it is a reference to "cargo space". There is a formula for calculating your tonnage from standard measurements (i.e.: LOA, Draft, Beam) but it's at home in my notebooks and I am currently at work. I'll try to dig it up for you. I tend to agree with Jay in listing your tonnage as 6 tons, although it could concieveably be as much as 10 or 12. Also as Jay points out, the smallest license they issue is 25 ton, so in effect, your boat's tonnage is sort of a non-issue (for licensing purposes anyway).
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Joe Bolm
H34 Coast Guard rating
My Hunter 34 "Exorcist" is documented and is listed as "9 gross tons" on my certificate of documentation. I hope this helps.
My Hunter 34 "Exorcist" is documented and is listed as "9 gross tons" on my certificate of documentation. I hope this helps.
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Dakota Jim Russell
Coast Guard Web Page lists all
See: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/cfr/46p69.htm#start The bottom of the page lists all: SUBPART E--SIMPLIFIED MEASUREMENT SYSTEM Sec. 69.201 Purpose. [PDF] 69.203 Definitions. [PDF] 69.205 Application for measurement services. [PDF] 69.207 Measurements. [PDF] 69.209 Calculation of tonnages. [PDF]
See: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/cfr/46p69.htm#start The bottom of the page lists all: SUBPART E--SIMPLIFIED MEASUREMENT SYSTEM Sec. 69.201 Purpose. [PDF] 69.203 Definitions. [PDF] 69.205 Application for measurement services. [PDF] 69.207 Measurements. [PDF] 69.209 Calculation of tonnages. [PDF]
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