Hello All, This will be our 4th winter as year round live aboards. We currently own an Appache 37, S&S design we have been very happy with. However, We have out grown her and we are fairly sure the 40 is for us. We are hoping to hear from some 40 owners for the "scoop" good or bad! We are big kids, we can take it. Look forward to hearing from you! Thanks, Paul & Val aboard Alkaid alkaid@msn.com
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PAUL AND VAL, WE LOOKED AT THE 40.5...
when we decided to sell our H28. Nice well built boat. The day we looked at this 40.5 in Seattle there was a P42 next to it for sale. My wife said if we're going to get a bigger boat this is the one I want. So I agreed to let her have her way. If you intend to live aboard the P42 is a much better boat than the 40.5. Check them both out and then decide. Terry
when we decided to sell our H28. Nice well built boat. The day we looked at this 40.5 in Seattle there was a P42 next to it for sale. My wife said if we're going to get a bigger boat this is the one I want. So I agreed to let her have her way. If you intend to live aboard the P42 is a much better boat than the 40.5. Check them both out and then decide. Terry
David, E mail us when you get a chance.
Hi David, Drop me a brief note with return E mail address. Look forward to hearing from you. alkaid@msn.com Thanks, Paul and Valery
Hi David, Drop me a brief note with return E mail address. Look forward to hearing from you. alkaid@msn.com Thanks, Paul and Valery
Hi Terry
Hi Terry, We are interseted in the older 40's Unfortunatly it's always a money crunch. Would love to go newer, just can't do it. But I sure do love those Hunters!!!! Thanks for the reply! Paul
Hi Terry, We are interseted in the older 40's Unfortunatly it's always a money crunch. Would love to go newer, just can't do it. But I sure do love those Hunters!!!! Thanks for the reply! Paul
We love ours
We've lived aboard, cruised and raced ours for about 2 1/2 years now. We're still working but manage to log around 50 days and 1500 miles of sailing on the West coast of Florida. We are also active in most of the area regattas in the true cruising class. Here's the unvarnished pros and cons as we seem 'em: Cons * Uncomfortable cockpit. The raised sole which yields that sumptuous aft stateroom eliminates nice tall comfy coamings for good seating. * Mineshaft for a companionway. It's a long way down if you stumble. Trust me. * Tiny V-berth. Almost uninhabitable for two people if one is over 6 feet. Keeps company from staying too long though. * Two heads. I know others will disagree but I think two heads on a boat this size is a ridiculous use of space. We never used the forward head so we yanked it out (capped the plumbing) and now use this bounty of space for storage. It's a godsend when you're on the hook for weeks at a time. * Traveller on the bridgedeck. Prevents an attached bimini/dodger combo when underway. * Aft holding tank is prone to leakage and a pain in the ass to repair. E-mail me or search archives if you want details. * Most of these on the market have been absolutely trashed. I flew and drove all over the country looking for one and most were absolute disasters. We held out for our nice one owner example. It's worth it. Be patient. * Poor joinery and untinned wiring. Pros * This is a biggy, this things sails like a bitch. We have regularly raced against boats like the Erickson 38-200, Beneteau First 41s5, C&C 37/40 and can beat or place with them. We've even got the shoal draft and it points very well. The deep draft would do better but you can kiss off any real gunkholing in Florida and the Bahamas. We go to windward in the 6 - 6.8 range and off the wind we've surfed it to high 9's regularly. It's quick in light air with our 150 genoa. We reef way early. It's definately a throwback to the big foretriangle/small main IOR designs. * Stout rig. This counts for a lot. * Great steering. Nice big wheel. Deep blade rudder. Easily accessible linkage and quadrant. * Traveller on the bridgedeck. In deference to what I wrote above, we love the traveller where it is. We thought it'd be a real pain but it's not generally in the way, and if you like playing with sail trim it's the only way to go. It's also saved our bacon a couple times being able to get to it quickly in a knockdown. * Aft stateroom. Need I say more? As liveaboards this was huge. The airflow at anchor on the hot sultry nights at anchor sucks though. Hammocks on deck, windscoop over the V-berth or lots of fans solves that one. * It's just got beautiful lines. To be really vain we awlgripped our topsides flag blue. We're usually mistaken for a C&C or a Tartan (that's a Hunter?!!!) We've made lots of upgrades and if you care, e-mail me. Good luck with your search! Rick Sylvester s/v Anthem '85 H40
We've lived aboard, cruised and raced ours for about 2 1/2 years now. We're still working but manage to log around 50 days and 1500 miles of sailing on the West coast of Florida. We are also active in most of the area regattas in the true cruising class. Here's the unvarnished pros and cons as we seem 'em: Cons * Uncomfortable cockpit. The raised sole which yields that sumptuous aft stateroom eliminates nice tall comfy coamings for good seating. * Mineshaft for a companionway. It's a long way down if you stumble. Trust me. * Tiny V-berth. Almost uninhabitable for two people if one is over 6 feet. Keeps company from staying too long though. * Two heads. I know others will disagree but I think two heads on a boat this size is a ridiculous use of space. We never used the forward head so we yanked it out (capped the plumbing) and now use this bounty of space for storage. It's a godsend when you're on the hook for weeks at a time. * Traveller on the bridgedeck. Prevents an attached bimini/dodger combo when underway. * Aft holding tank is prone to leakage and a pain in the ass to repair. E-mail me or search archives if you want details. * Most of these on the market have been absolutely trashed. I flew and drove all over the country looking for one and most were absolute disasters. We held out for our nice one owner example. It's worth it. Be patient. * Poor joinery and untinned wiring. Pros * This is a biggy, this things sails like a bitch. We have regularly raced against boats like the Erickson 38-200, Beneteau First 41s5, C&C 37/40 and can beat or place with them. We've even got the shoal draft and it points very well. The deep draft would do better but you can kiss off any real gunkholing in Florida and the Bahamas. We go to windward in the 6 - 6.8 range and off the wind we've surfed it to high 9's regularly. It's quick in light air with our 150 genoa. We reef way early. It's definately a throwback to the big foretriangle/small main IOR designs. * Stout rig. This counts for a lot. * Great steering. Nice big wheel. Deep blade rudder. Easily accessible linkage and quadrant. * Traveller on the bridgedeck. In deference to what I wrote above, we love the traveller where it is. We thought it'd be a real pain but it's not generally in the way, and if you like playing with sail trim it's the only way to go. It's also saved our bacon a couple times being able to get to it quickly in a knockdown. * Aft stateroom. Need I say more? As liveaboards this was huge. The airflow at anchor on the hot sultry nights at anchor sucks though. Hammocks on deck, windscoop over the V-berth or lots of fans solves that one. * It's just got beautiful lines. To be really vain we awlgripped our topsides flag blue. We're usually mistaken for a C&C or a Tartan (that's a Hunter?!!!) We've made lots of upgrades and if you care, e-mail me. Good luck with your search! Rick Sylvester s/v Anthem '85 H40
Hi Rick
Hi Rick 5am and at work. Thanks for the great reply! I have more questions, not only about your 40 but now some about the Gulf coast, living and sailing. I get lost each time I get into this forum, my sweetie promises to guide me through it. If you could drop me your e mail address I can get into a forum I understand and save her the frustration of teaching the old dog new tricks. Look forward to hearing from you! Paul and Valery alkaid@msn.com
Hi Rick 5am and at work. Thanks for the great reply! I have more questions, not only about your 40 but now some about the Gulf coast, living and sailing. I get lost each time I get into this forum, my sweetie promises to guide me through it. If you could drop me your e mail address I can get into a forum I understand and save her the frustration of teaching the old dog new tricks. Look forward to hearing from you! Paul and Valery alkaid@msn.com
Mostly I agree with RIck
Paul and Val The only compliant I really have about my 40 is the aft holding tank. It is not a tank it's a lid over a void between two stringers. The lid shakes loose and leaks. As rick said it is a royal pain to get to and fix. Over all I love the boat. I'm do not live aboard so my needs may be different then yours. (There are pictures of her in the owners pictures section) I'd be happy to answer any questions you have as you look. My e-mail is in the owners directory. If your in Ohio (in the summer) I'd be glad to take you for a sail. Kevin s/v Katawa Cay
Paul and Val The only compliant I really have about my 40 is the aft holding tank. It is not a tank it's a lid over a void between two stringers. The lid shakes loose and leaks. As rick said it is a royal pain to get to and fix. Over all I love the boat. I'm do not live aboard so my needs may be different then yours. (There are pictures of her in the owners pictures section) I'd be happy to answer any questions you have as you look. My e-mail is in the owners directory. If your in Ohio (in the summer) I'd be glad to take you for a sail. Kevin s/v Katawa Cay
Replace it and be done.
Kevin & Rick: If these tanks are such a problem why don't you replace them and be done with the problem? I can tell you that if I had a stinky tank on our boat, I would be a lonesome sailor (no spouse aboard).
Kevin & Rick: If these tanks are such a problem why don't you replace them and be done with the problem? I can tell you that if I had a stinky tank on our boat, I would be a lonesome sailor (no spouse aboard).
We did the repair two years ago
with 5200 and 2 layers of fiberglass mat. I also put a guage while I had it apart. So far it's been just fine. No leaks, no smells. You're right though, it would be no trick to just throw a poly tank in a cabinet and replumb. I've read that some have done that.
with 5200 and 2 layers of fiberglass mat. I also put a guage while I had it apart. So far it's been just fine. No leaks, no smells. You're right though, it would be no trick to just throw a poly tank in a cabinet and replumb. I've read that some have done that.
Like Rick
I repaired mine last year and so far so good. I did mine with epoxy and several layers of mat. Since there is not an actual tank you really can't replace anything. You could as Rick suggests put a holding tank some where else but every where I can find space it's an uphill position. I prefer it when gravity helps. Kevin
I repaired mine last year and so far so good. I did mine with epoxy and several layers of mat. Since there is not an actual tank you really can't replace anything. You could as Rick suggests put a holding tank some where else but every where I can find space it's an uphill position. I prefer it when gravity helps. Kevin
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