I would like to know if anyone out there can help me with a problem that I cant seem to figure out. Ive noticed that when my wife and I are not on the boat it will stay as dry as a bone, but when we stay on it for the weekend we have to bail anywhere from 7-12 buckets of water out of the bilge area. I have install a valve on the electric bilge pump. Ive check the manual bilge pump in the cockpit, there isnt a valve on it. I have the boat out of the water at this time. Ive checked the keel mount, and the tube that the keel cable goes through, and I cant find any leaks. If anyone out there has any ideas please email me at mad_parrot2002@yahoo.com and help me solve this problem. I would surely hate to sell this boat because I cant keep it dry. Thank You, Charles T. Moyer
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Dave
Re: Water in hull...
Is your cooler draining into the bilge as the ice melts? I doubt that it would create that much water, but it's a thought. If it's taking on water from outside the boat (which sounds like the case), then the leak must be very near to the water line. That sould narrow your search a little. When you, your wife and any extra gear are added, the boat must settle down into the water enough for water to enter at the leak's location. I'm not familiar with the MkII. Any through-hulls or drains near the water line? Anchor compartment drain? Bilge pump drain? Scupper drains? Sink drain? Interesting mystery. Let us know what it is when you find it.
Is your cooler draining into the bilge as the ice melts? I doubt that it would create that much water, but it's a thought. If it's taking on water from outside the boat (which sounds like the case), then the leak must be very near to the water line. That sould narrow your search a little. When you, your wife and any extra gear are added, the boat must settle down into the water enough for water to enter at the leak's location. I'm not familiar with the MkII. Any through-hulls or drains near the water line? Anchor compartment drain? Bilge pump drain? Scupper drains? Sink drain? Interesting mystery. Let us know what it is when you find it.
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Ken Palmer
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Randy
I agree with Ken
I had the same problem but not as much water came in. The lower gudgeon would be underwater when we ran with the motor or when there were several people aboard. We sealed it with a rubber gasket and not a drop since. Randy
I had the same problem but not as much water came in. The lower gudgeon would be underwater when we ran with the motor or when there were several people aboard. We sealed it with a rubber gasket and not a drop since. Randy
keel?
You didn't mention whether this happens at any time you are on board, or only if it happens when you are moving. Do you notice water collecting as soon as you get aboard at the dock, or only after you've been sailing? I'm not familiar with swing keels, so this might have nothing to do with it, but my fin keel capri 22 remains absolutely dry unless I've been sailing upwind and flexing the keel a bit. But I'm only talking about a few cups of water, not buckets. Sounds like the other responses might be more on target.
You didn't mention whether this happens at any time you are on board, or only if it happens when you are moving. Do you notice water collecting as soon as you get aboard at the dock, or only after you've been sailing? I'm not familiar with swing keels, so this might have nothing to do with it, but my fin keel capri 22 remains absolutely dry unless I've been sailing upwind and flexing the keel a bit. But I'm only talking about a few cups of water, not buckets. Sounds like the other responses might be more on target.
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Herb-Alaska
swing keel bolt
Have you checked the bolt for the swing keel. I have read that they will weep or leak mine I keep packed with marine grease and it keeps the water out. This could be leaking when you have the keel down. 7 to 12 buckets is enough water that you should be able to see the water coming put every one board and then split the boat up and ahve everyone looking for water. Good luck
Have you checked the bolt for the swing keel. I have read that they will weep or leak mine I keep packed with marine grease and it keeps the water out. This could be leaking when you have the keel down. 7 to 12 buckets is enough water that you should be able to see the water coming put every one board and then split the boat up and ahve everyone looking for water. Good luck
Keel cable tube too short?
From your description, you have some leak a bit above the water line when the vessel is absent of sailors. I speculate that potentially the heavy black rubber tube that surrounds your keel cable may be either too short or possibly not properly secured to the metal tube that comes up from the “volcano”, if the mark II’s still have this “volcano”. That tube should extend almost to about an inch below the cable winch. As this tube is unseen due to the board that covers the winch, you may not notice water coming up through it as your weight is rearward, say in the cockpit, but it stops when you weight is more forward in the cabin. The base of this tube should have two (read this two) hose clamps securing it to the metal tube afore mentioned. Again as in water leaking over the top, this may not be readily noticed when you are rearward. Aside from the above, it is possible the keel cable has worn through the hull somewhere in the fiberglass where it enters the boat. This may be due to the cable improperly aligned against the keel cable turning ball, the cable incorrectly positioned forward of the ball instead of the correct aft of the ball, or possibly the keel cable turning ball is missing. To ascertain these possibilities, you will need to haul the boat. If you are still unable to determine the source of the leak, you may have to haul the vessel, fill the interior with water, and then see where water is exiting.
From your description, you have some leak a bit above the water line when the vessel is absent of sailors. I speculate that potentially the heavy black rubber tube that surrounds your keel cable may be either too short or possibly not properly secured to the metal tube that comes up from the “volcano”, if the mark II’s still have this “volcano”. That tube should extend almost to about an inch below the cable winch. As this tube is unseen due to the board that covers the winch, you may not notice water coming up through it as your weight is rearward, say in the cockpit, but it stops when you weight is more forward in the cabin. The base of this tube should have two (read this two) hose clamps securing it to the metal tube afore mentioned. Again as in water leaking over the top, this may not be readily noticed when you are rearward. Aside from the above, it is possible the keel cable has worn through the hull somewhere in the fiberglass where it enters the boat. This may be due to the cable improperly aligned against the keel cable turning ball, the cable incorrectly positioned forward of the ball instead of the correct aft of the ball, or possibly the keel cable turning ball is missing. To ascertain these possibilities, you will need to haul the boat. If you are still unable to determine the source of the leak, you may have to haul the vessel, fill the interior with water, and then see where water is exiting.
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