I'm fairly new to this group so I apologize if this topic has been covered before. I have a 1972 Catalina 22 swing keel (#944). The boat is sitting lower in the water than it ever has and I suspect there may be water between the liner and the hull. Does anyone have any experience with this -- accessing the area, detecting any water and finally draining it. I live in NJ so I am concerned about ice in the winter -- not to mention barnacles on the unprotected areas in the summer. Thoughts?
Water between liner
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I suppose that you have water under the sole plate. I remove mine with a sponge and a bucket or a bilge pump. The big question is how is the water getting below. There are several common leaks: (1) Loose hose on the volcano--where the keel cable goes through the hose. (2) Keel lock bolt. You can use a marine silicon grease to slow this leak. (3) Crib boards. Hard to stop without using a tarp or boat cover. (4) Cockpit drain hoses. and the biggest problem (5) Leaking windows. I have collected a lot of water below in a single rain, before I removed and resealed my windows. New gaskets are a necessity. You can get them through catalinadirect.com or a local Catalina dealer. It took me a solid day and a half to remove, clean, and reseal my windows. David
I suppose that you have water under the sole plate. I remove mine with a sponge and a bucket or a bilge pump. The big question is how is the water getting below. There are several common leaks: (1) Loose hose on the volcano--where the keel cable goes through the hose. (2) Keel lock bolt. You can use a marine silicon grease to slow this leak. (3) Crib boards. Hard to stop without using a tarp or boat cover. (4) Cockpit drain hoses. and the biggest problem (5) Leaking windows. I have collected a lot of water below in a single rain, before I removed and resealed my windows. New gaskets are a necessity. You can get them through catalinadirect.com or a local Catalina dealer. It took me a solid day and a half to remove, clean, and reseal my windows. David
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David: Thanks for your tips. Maybe I'm not explaining this right. While I'm not sure where the sole plate is, all the areas you mention leak either into the storage lockers or the bilge. The water I'm talking about is *between* the liner and the hull. There's a gap where the cabin area and the hull meet when they are assembled. Thats the area I'm talking about. I used to be a consultant for HCSC and visited Abilene a lot. I was also one of the guys who delivered the 1st B-1 bombers to Dyess. Nice people down there. Small world.
David: Thanks for your tips. Maybe I'm not explaining this right. While I'm not sure where the sole plate is, all the areas you mention leak either into the storage lockers or the bilge. The water I'm talking about is *between* the liner and the hull. There's a gap where the cabin area and the hull meet when they are assembled. Thats the area I'm talking about. I used to be a consultant for HCSC and visited Abilene a lot. I was also one of the guys who delivered the 1st B-1 bombers to Dyess. Nice people down there. Small world.
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Rich, the sole is the floor of the cabin - the base of the "liner" as you call it. Below the sole is the bilge. The bilge is between the cabin assembly and the hull. There is nothing else. They take a hull and drop a cabin into it. The bottom of the cabin is the sole and the space between the sole and the hull is the bilge. Perhaps if you posted a picture of what you mean by the liner we could help more.
Rich, the sole is the floor of the cabin - the base of the "liner" as you call it. Below the sole is the bilge. The bilge is between the cabin assembly and the hull. There is nothing else. They take a hull and drop a cabin into it. The bottom of the cabin is the sole and the space between the sole and the hull is the bilge. Perhaps if you posted a picture of what you mean by the liner we could help more.
Window Gaskets
David, Can you elaborate a little on the window gaskets you bought from CD? I'm considering the same and am interested in why you see this as a necessity.
David, Can you elaborate a little on the window gaskets you bought from CD? I'm considering the same and am interested in why you see this as a necessity.
Bilge?
Randy: Sounds like semantics. What I call the bilge is the area around the battery box (i,e, the floor of the cabin). If you go down one more layer, there's a gap between the "insert" (the cabin area) and the hull. I believe that's where I have water. (Catalina calls it the space between the liner and the hull). Does that help?
Randy: Sounds like semantics. What I call the bilge is the area around the battery box (i,e, the floor of the cabin). If you go down one more layer, there's a gap between the "insert" (the cabin area) and the hull. I believe that's where I have water. (Catalina calls it the space between the liner and the hull). Does that help?
WATCH OUT!!!
Don't loosen the volcano clamp while in the water!!!! Your boat may sink due to the fact that the top of the volcano is under the water line!!! WATCH OUT!!!!!
Don't loosen the volcano clamp while in the water!!!! Your boat may sink due to the fact that the top of the volcano is under the water line!!! WATCH OUT!!!!!
Window Seal
Matt, Here is a link to the window seals: http://www.catalinadirect.com/vinyl%20glazing%20channel.cfm Removing and resealing the windows is too much work to not replace the seals. Most of the time they are broken. Be sure to put the gap at the top when you assemble the windows. If the widow gaskets are not in good shape and sealed properly, it will funnel water inside the boat. David
Matt, Here is a link to the window seals: http://www.catalinadirect.com/vinyl%20glazing%20channel.cfm Removing and resealing the windows is too much work to not replace the seals. Most of the time they are broken. Be sure to put the gap at the top when you assemble the windows. If the widow gaskets are not in good shape and sealed properly, it will funnel water inside the boat. David
My C22 has openings
Rich, my 1986 C22 has a couple of openings in the sole (floor of the cabin insert) that have teak covers. I can remove the teak covers and be looking right at the bilge (the area betwwen the hull and the cabin sole). It is only about a 1" space. That is how I check for water and I use a large sponge to mop up any that gets in there. It should be bone dry, otherwise there is a leak. My C22 is a fixed keel so that makes the situation simpler too.
Rich, my 1986 C22 has a couple of openings in the sole (floor of the cabin insert) that have teak covers. I can remove the teak covers and be looking right at the bilge (the area betwwen the hull and the cabin sole). It is only about a 1" space. That is how I check for water and I use a large sponge to mop up any that gets in there. It should be bone dry, otherwise there is a leak. My C22 is a fixed keel so that makes the situation simpler too.
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Randy: Never heard that area referred to as the bilge...maybe because I don't have access to it in my '72...which only brings me back to my original question!
Randy: Never heard that area referred to as the bilge...maybe because I don't have access to it in my '72...which only brings me back to my original question!
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