Can any of you Virginia Sailors tell me how the Commonwealth of Virginia calculates the amount of personal property tax charged on a boat? and typically how much are we talking about annually here? There is a time in the near future where I may be moving my boat from Michigan to the Deltaville area, and I would like to know what to plan for.
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The state does not do it
The counties and cities calculate and collect personal property tax. Every locality has a different rate. Some localities collect nothing for boats. They are trying to draw boats to their jurisdiction. Portsmouth charges no tax on boats, to my understanding. Middlesex and Lancaster are high. People who don't even live there are paying for county schools.
The counties and cities calculate and collect personal property tax. Every locality has a different rate. Some localities collect nothing for boats. They are trying to draw boats to their jurisdiction. Portsmouth charges no tax on boats, to my understanding. Middlesex and Lancaster are high. People who don't even live there are paying for county schools.
Along the Potomac
There are three counties and from memory of 4 years ago, the rates were about 4% of the market value - EVERY YEAR. Value from the UADA (I think that is right) or how ever it is named. That is why I park my boat in Maryland, only had to pay the one time excise tax of the net purchase price. Jim S/V Java
There are three counties and from memory of 4 years ago, the rates were about 4% of the market value - EVERY YEAR. Value from the UADA (I think that is right) or how ever it is named. That is why I park my boat in Maryland, only had to pay the one time excise tax of the net purchase price. Jim S/V Java
Pull her out
I am really worried about taxes on My Catalina 30 next year. I have left her in the slip and I think that my marina's owner sends a list to Westmoreland County on the boats that he has in his dock on Jan 1. I was thinking about taking the boat out of the slip but I have to work on Jan 1 so I can't do that. A lot of guys haul their boat out in Cobb Island Maryland and they avoid the tax on their boat. I was hoping that they would miss mine because I have a documented boat but I doubt that they will. I think that they tax 3 dollars on every 100 dollars in Westmoreland County.
I am really worried about taxes on My Catalina 30 next year. I have left her in the slip and I think that my marina's owner sends a list to Westmoreland County on the boats that he has in his dock on Jan 1. I was thinking about taking the boat out of the slip but I have to work on Jan 1 so I can't do that. A lot of guys haul their boat out in Cobb Island Maryland and they avoid the tax on their boat. I was hoping that they would miss mine because I have a documented boat but I doubt that they will. I think that they tax 3 dollars on every 100 dollars in Westmoreland County.
Portsmouth looking into raising it.
Right now Portsmouth is charging $.01 for every $100 assessed however they are looking into raising it to $1.00 per $100.00 assessed. It is stiring up quite a controversy around here. It seems that the city council feels like boats are only owned by wealthy people who have tons of money. The city of Norfolk has a $.01 per $100.00, and Virginia Beach is less than that. Hampton does not have a boat tax at all I think. So if Portsmouth makes this change I imagine that quite a few folks will be looking into moving their boats to cities that are not trying to raise their tax rate 10,000% in a year. Of course $1.00 is bad but $3.00 per hundred is just nuts. Do they really collected $6,000 a year on a boat assessed at $200,000 or is that $3.00 per thousand not per hundred?
Right now Portsmouth is charging $.01 for every $100 assessed however they are looking into raising it to $1.00 per $100.00 assessed. It is stiring up quite a controversy around here. It seems that the city council feels like boats are only owned by wealthy people who have tons of money. The city of Norfolk has a $.01 per $100.00, and Virginia Beach is less than that. Hampton does not have a boat tax at all I think. So if Portsmouth makes this change I imagine that quite a few folks will be looking into moving their boats to cities that are not trying to raise their tax rate 10,000% in a year. Of course $1.00 is bad but $3.00 per hundred is just nuts. Do they really collected $6,000 a year on a boat assessed at $200,000 or is that $3.00 per thousand not per hundred?
deltaville
Deltaville taxes were approximately 900 bucks on a 100k value boat. It is a county by county thing with Norfolk/Portmouth and Hampton having little or no tax and everywhere else hitting you up pretty good.
Deltaville taxes were approximately 900 bucks on a 100k value boat. It is a county by county thing with Norfolk/Portmouth and Hampton having little or no tax and everywhere else hitting you up pretty good.
Wait a minute...
Bad Obsession, or anybody - how can Virginia or any locality tax a documented vessel? That doesn't make any sense...
Bad Obsession, or anybody - how can Virginia or any locality tax a documented vessel? That doesn't make any sense...
Its called personal property tax ......
its an 'excise' tax on all real property other than your house: car, boat, motorcycle, RV - motor home, boat trailer, private airplane, PWC ... any conspicuous consumption. Has nothing to do with boat 'registration' . Its called SOCIALISM ... transfer payments from the 'rich' to the teachers unions.
its an 'excise' tax on all real property other than your house: car, boat, motorcycle, RV - motor home, boat trailer, private airplane, PWC ... any conspicuous consumption. Has nothing to do with boat 'registration' . Its called SOCIALISM ... transfer payments from the 'rich' to the teachers unions.
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that documentation somehow exempts you from taxes. Aside from the establishment of your ownership of the vessel (required for boat loans and in foreign ports)...it does nothing of the sort. Depending on the state in which you live and/or dock your boat...you will be eligible for the same taxes that every non-documented boat faces including: 1. REGISTRATION fees...you don't have to put the numbers on the hull but you have to pay it and put the sticker on in most states. 2. Sales tax 3. Use tax 4. Personal property tax There are extensive threads on this topic over at SSCA dot org and sailnet dot com forums if you want to take a look at all the possible variations of this.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that documentation somehow exempts you from taxes. Aside from the establishment of your ownership of the vessel (required for boat loans and in foreign ports)...it does nothing of the sort. Depending on the state in which you live and/or dock your boat...you will be eligible for the same taxes that every non-documented boat faces including: 1. REGISTRATION fees...you don't have to put the numbers on the hull but you have to pay it and put the sticker on in most states. 2. Sales tax 3. Use tax 4. Personal property tax There are extensive threads on this topic over at SSCA dot org and sailnet dot com forums if you want to take a look at all the possible variations of this.
Personal Property Tax
Each city/county establishes the tax rate. In the 1980's the Hampton Roads cities lowered their taxes to attract boaters and transients. Currently Virginia Beach, Norfolk and Portsmouth have .01 per $1000 of assessed value. Hampton has zero. Newport News, Chesapeake, and Suffolk have $10 per $1000. The City Council of Portsmouth is currently in the process of changing the rate to $10 per $100 or a 10000% rate increase. The city is extremely poorly mismanaged and wasteful. Note: Mile marker zero of the ICW is in Portsmouth. They received a poorly done study that states they can collect $600,000 annually from the boaters. Most of the documented boat owners will depart Portsmouth and cross the Elizabeth River to Norfolk, Hampton or Va Beach. The VA Department of Inland Game and Fisheries provides the cities with the registration data of the boat owners for tax purposes. The marina owners are required to provide the cities with the names and addresses of the boats in the marinas so they can levy a personal property tax. They use January 1 at the marina as the date for tax purposes.The study stated that the majority of boat owners are very wealthy and they can afford that tax. However, no mention was ever made about what services these boat owners would receive for this significant tax increase. The boat owners at the marinass do not receive any services from the city. Simple greed of the City of Portsmouth. A question was asked about Deltaville. That city is in Middlesex County and they have a hefty tax on boats as a large population of boat owners reside well outside of Deltaville around Richmond and adjacent areas.
Each city/county establishes the tax rate. In the 1980's the Hampton Roads cities lowered their taxes to attract boaters and transients. Currently Virginia Beach, Norfolk and Portsmouth have .01 per $1000 of assessed value. Hampton has zero. Newport News, Chesapeake, and Suffolk have $10 per $1000. The City Council of Portsmouth is currently in the process of changing the rate to $10 per $100 or a 10000% rate increase. The city is extremely poorly mismanaged and wasteful. Note: Mile marker zero of the ICW is in Portsmouth. They received a poorly done study that states they can collect $600,000 annually from the boaters. Most of the documented boat owners will depart Portsmouth and cross the Elizabeth River to Norfolk, Hampton or Va Beach. The VA Department of Inland Game and Fisheries provides the cities with the registration data of the boat owners for tax purposes. The marina owners are required to provide the cities with the names and addresses of the boats in the marinas so they can levy a personal property tax. They use January 1 at the marina as the date for tax purposes.The study stated that the majority of boat owners are very wealthy and they can afford that tax. However, no mention was ever made about what services these boat owners would receive for this significant tax increase. The boat owners at the marinass do not receive any services from the city. Simple greed of the City of Portsmouth. A question was asked about Deltaville. That city is in Middlesex County and they have a hefty tax on boats as a large population of boat owners reside well outside of Deltaville around Richmond and adjacent areas.
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Try this site. regentpointmarina.com under the boat brokerage page there is a tax calculation guage for surrounding (Northern Neck) counties.
Try this site. regentpointmarina.com under the boat brokerage page there is a tax calculation guage for surrounding (Northern Neck) counties.
it varies, state to state, county to county
Having recently acquired our boat in Maryland and home porting it in Norfolk, VA, I have knowledge of the Virginia situation. Whether I'm right is another matter. In effect, Virginia has no sales tax for documented vessels because you don't have to interact whatsoever with Virginia if your boat is documented or being documented. Period. The Commonwealth of Virginia and documented vessels never meet. (I don't know if this holds true for non-VA residents.) This differs from, for example, Maryland, where you get tagged for 5% sales tax regardless of documentation. We live in Arlington, VA and first considered looking for a marina/dockage in the northern Bay (Maryland) until the 5% sales tax scared us off. In Virginia, property taxes are a different matter and are assessed by the city/county of moorage and vary widely - regardless of federal documentation. Even if there was a marina or dockage suitable for us in Arlington, we'd pay the exact same personal property tax rate as we do for automobiles. YIKES!! Surrounding Virginia counties/cities are similar. (D.C. is still another matter.) We called each VA jurisdiction on the western shore of the Bay to inquire about their property taxes for boats. The further south you go, the less the property tax, until you get to the Tidewater area where it all but disappears (as another poster described). This is why we ended up in Norfolk. We'll commute to our boat for a couple years until retirement when we go full time cruising. Dave S/V Pas de Deux Catana 471-44
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