VHF Radio - A thought

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Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
My VHF radio currently comes off the (+) buss with an inline fuse. I took it off the panel switch since it has its own off switch and I didn't want any extra steps or confusion if it needed to be turned on in an emergency. I might be busy dealing with the problem and it wouldn't be a good time to be shouting, "Third switch from the right, the panel, no, no, the black thing with all the switches on it, yes, those switch.... NO! not the big red switch, look, over.. hand me the other fire extinguisher.. see all the little switches over to the right, now two rows, .... NEVER MIND! WE'RE GETTING IN THE DINGHY!"

Most people will see a knob labeled "Power/Volume" and know what to do.

I think the next step is to move the radio power connection from the buss to the power side of the battery switch. There is some risk of leaving the radio on and running down the battery but I'm pretty good about those things. As a former pilot, I got used to the idea that I could die if I forgot a switch. Of course, we had checklists.

My thinking is that, if you had an electrical fire, the first thing you would want to do is turn off the battery master switch. The second thing you would want to do is put out at least a "Pan Pan" call in case things got out of hand. It would be nice to still have a radio at that point.

USCG inspected vessels have emergency batteries. It might not be too difficult to wire one of those in. The battery store near me just gave me two of the small batteries used in emergency lighting units. They are 12 volt and many companies replace every one annually so they end up with pallet loads of batteries that have been on float charge for a year and are headed for recycling even though they are nearly as good as new. If one of those could live happily wired into the radio circuit so it is on constant charge from the 12 volt system, it would continue providing power after the master switch was turned off. A diode could prevent it draining back in case of a low SOC condition in the main bank.
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
Here is how it would be wired without an emergency battery:



Since the VHF has it's own inline fuse within 7" of the battery post, there is no real hazard aside from overly picky surveyors. Even a major electrical problem, say the big cable coming loose from the starter and welding itself to the engine, would leave you with a radio.

BTW the two apparently un-fused lines run to a fuse panel and are for the bilge pumps. All of my breakers run to an intermediate fuse panel so that I can fine tune the protection level and because I don't trust the old breakers entirely. The breakers are used only as a switch panel on my boat.
 
Mar 7, 2005
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HR 40 Chesapeake Bay
The more circuits run directly to the battery the more difficult troubleshooting becomes, and the more likely to pick up RFI. Getting to all those in-line fuses can be an issue in extremis also.

On my panel I have a couple rows of somewhat conventional (EU) switched breakers. I have two more rows of push-on/push-off breakers for all the things that are left on at the panel and switched locally. This system avoids the emergency failure mode you described.

You might also consider the approach that military and commercial vessels use of having an emergency panel. A separate master switch feeds an emergency panel with selected loads (bilge pumps, high water alarm, VHF, etc.).

YMMV.
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
You might also consider the approach that military and commercial vessels use of having an emergency panel.
I've considered that and it's on my "someday" list. It's the kind of project I can do next winter at anchor somewhere down south. I'm kind of "Upgraded out" right now. :)
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,805
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Roger,

I am replacing my radio and currently the power is wired to a switch on the DP. I was thinking of just attaching the +/- directly to the pos & neg bus bars eliminating the switch. (There is an inline fuse) Then I can use that switch for future 12v outlets. Is that how yours was originally wired?
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
Is that how yours was originally wired?
Exactly the same sequence. I thought it was silly having to turn two switches. The radio needed a smaller fuse than the breaker it was attached to. I didn't do anything about it until I needed a switch for the addition of radar.
 
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