Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use, i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope to get soon some usefull answers.Roland,Vega 799, Helsinki
vega mast support problem.
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I can't help you with how to fix it but some others on the list have
repaired theirs. The Prototype for the Vega was a wooden boat. Back
then we did not tighten the rigging very tight. Most boats had a
mast going down to the keel and if you tightened the rig tight and
left it tight it would push the keel down and open the seams. This
more loose rigging was a big part of the reason glass boats were
faster in racing. Vega is glass but the bulkhead and mast suppoert
are wood just as is a wooden boat. Back in the 1960's nobody ever
dreamed of pulling the rigging banjo tight. I keep mine loose and
only tighten them if I am going to race. The difference in pointing
and speed to windward are almost unrecognizable except if you are
racing around the buoys. The Vegas were never intended to have
tight rigging. This doesn't solve your problem but some here who
have fixed the same problem on their boats should come on here with
some advice. Doug
repaired theirs. The Prototype for the Vega was a wooden boat. Back
then we did not tighten the rigging very tight. Most boats had a
mast going down to the keel and if you tightened the rig tight and
left it tight it would push the keel down and open the seams. This
more loose rigging was a big part of the reason glass boats were
faster in racing. Vega is glass but the bulkhead and mast suppoert
are wood just as is a wooden boat. Back in the 1960's nobody ever
dreamed of pulling the rigging banjo tight. I keep mine loose and
only tighten them if I am going to race. The difference in pointing
and speed to windward are almost unrecognizable except if you are
racing around the buoys. The Vegas were never intended to have
tight rigging. This doesn't solve your problem but some here who
have fixed the same problem on their boats should come on here with
some advice. Doug
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Alan, There wasn't a pdf attached to that message but if you could send a copy to me that would be great- the mast support on my vega is going to be reinforced this summer and any suggestions about how to do it would be much appreciated. Carl To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: alan.schulman@...Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:55:04 -0700Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Hi Alan,
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
Yahoo! Groups
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Hi Roland, I'm guessing that you have a Series 1 by your hull number. My question for you is are you trying to fix a problem or are you trying to avoid a future problem with the mast support. I have Lyric, hull # 120. The mast support on her is fairly heavy duty compared to other later model Vegas I've been aboard. I've not had any problems with the mast support. I'm not sure when they changed the design. I also do as Doug suggests, keep the wire somewhat loose. Perhaps Steve might want to comment? Walt From: matias-perret@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:05:46 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hi Alan,
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Hi Alan,
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
Yahoo! Groups
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Oops. I read the post again and saw the part about the door not closing. Good luck with the fix. Walt To: albinvega@yahoogroups.comFrom: bestvega@...Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:58:27 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hi Roland, I'm guessing that you have a Series 1 by your hull number. My question for you is are you trying to fix a problem or are you trying to avoid a future problem with the mast support. I have Lyric, hull # 120. The mast support on her is fairly heavy duty compared to other later model Vegas I've been aboard. I've not had any problems with the mast support. I'm not sure when they changed the design. I also do as Doug suggests, keep the wire somewhat loose. Perhaps Steve might want to comment? Walt From: matias-perret@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:05:46 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hi Alan,
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Hi Roland, I'm guessing that you have a Series 1 by your hull number. My question for you is are you trying to fix a problem or are you trying to avoid a future problem with the mast support. I have Lyric, hull # 120. The mast support on her is fairly heavy duty compared to other later model Vegas I've been aboard. I've not had any problems with the mast support. I'm not sure when they changed the design. I also do as Doug suggests, keep the wire somewhat loose. Perhaps Steve might want to comment? Walt From: matias-perret@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:05:46 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hi Alan,
As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you could post it to the yahoo groups file section:
Yahoo! Groups
groups.yahoo.com
I think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast support already, but the more the merrier.
Cheer,
Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:55 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the .pdf
document that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly. I
hope it helps.
Alan
minke, V2505
Hi All
Mast support problems sometime appear when the
standing rigging is set taut, usually for racing purposes. There is a kit
available made from us here in the UK. Email me off group for details (steve@...).
Consists of a stainless support beam with spreader
strip etc.
The Series III Vega dont seem to have this problem
as the support was beefed up considerably during manufacture.
Cheers Steve B
From: walt judy brown allore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:58 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi Roland, I'm guessing that you have a Series 1 by your hull
number. My question for you is are you trying to fix a problem or are you
trying to avoid a future problem with the mast support. I have Lyric, hull #
120. The mast support on her is fairly heavy duty compared to other later model
Vegas I've been aboard. I've not had any problems with the mast support. I'm not
sure when they changed the design. I also do as Doug suggests, keep the wire
somewhat loose. Perhaps Steve might want to
comment?
Walt From: matias-perret@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 12
Feb 2014 01:05:46 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi
Alan,As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you
could post it to the yahoo groups file section:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbinVega/filesI
think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast
support already, but the more the merrier.Cheer,Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com]
on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]Sent: Tuesday, February
11, 2014 6:55 PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:
[AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the
.pdfdocument that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly.
Ihope it helps.Alanminke, V2505On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at
3:52 PM, koob@... wrote:
Mast support problems sometime appear when the
standing rigging is set taut, usually for racing purposes. There is a kit
available made from us here in the UK. Email me off group for details (steve@...).
Consists of a stainless support beam with spreader
strip etc.
The Series III Vega dont seem to have this problem
as the support was beefed up considerably during manufacture.
Cheers Steve B
From: walt judy brown allore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:58 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi Roland, I'm guessing that you have a Series 1 by your hull
number. My question for you is are you trying to fix a problem or are you
trying to avoid a future problem with the mast support. I have Lyric, hull #
120. The mast support on her is fairly heavy duty compared to other later model
Vegas I've been aboard. I've not had any problems with the mast support. I'm not
sure when they changed the design. I also do as Doug suggests, keep the wire
somewhat loose. Perhaps Steve might want to
comment?
Walt From: matias-perret@...To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 12
Feb 2014 01:05:46 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi
Alan,As that is a document that I may want to see as well, maybe you
could post it to the yahoo groups file section:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AlbinVega/filesI
think that there is a little additional info in the files regarding the mast
support already, but the more the merrier.Cheer,Matias
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com]
on behalf of n4lbl [alan.schulman@...]Sent: Tuesday, February
11, 2014 6:55 PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:
[AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
I guess I am about to find out if we permit attachments. If the
.pdfdocument that I've attached doesn't propagate I'll send it directly.
Ihope it helps.Alanminke, V2505On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at
3:52 PM, koob@... wrote:
Hi Roland
I supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it entails.
Cheers
Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703
From: koob@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use, i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope to get soon some usefull answers.
Roland,
Vega 799, Helsinki
I supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it entails.
Cheers
Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703
From: koob@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use, i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope to get soon some usefull answers.
Roland,
Vega 799, Helsinki
Thank you all for good tips, hopefully this will solve my problem, pdf is just what we were missing here. Does anyone knows whats going on with mast leg? Has it ever been in albin vega?Roland,Albin Vega 799
Is it possible to get some pitctures and more specifications, what material and stuff like that. My email (koob1992 at gmail. Com)
Hi Steve, Is this the stainless steel arch at the top of the bulk head? While I am redoing my boat I was going to beef up this mast support system while I have the time to take care of it. Please send me the info on what you have for this. Also I think I would like to go with the hinged mast system as well. I will be lowering my mast by myself and the hinged system sounds like that is what I need to do? Please advise. Thanks,Larry V-2761Sent from Windows MailFrom: steve@...Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:07 AMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Hi Roland
I supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it entails.
Cheers
Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703
From: koob@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use, i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope to get soon some usefull answers.
Roland,
Vega 799, Helsinki
Hi Roland
I supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it entails.
Cheers
Steve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort" V1703
From: koob@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support problem.
Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use, i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope to get soon some usefull answers.
Roland,
Vega 799, Helsinki
Hi Larry
Email me off group on steve@...
Cheers
Steve
From: lewills30@...
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:28 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi Steve,
Is this the stainless steel arch at the top of the bulk head?
While I am redoing my boat I was going to beef up this mast support system while
I have the time to take care of it. Please send me the info on what you have for
this. Also I think I would like to go with the hinged mast system as well. I
will be lowering my mast by myself and the hinged system sounds like that is
what I need to do? Please advise.
Thanks,
Larry
V-2761
Sent from Windows Mail
From: steve@...Sent: Wednesday,
February 12, 2014 1:07 AMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Hi RolandI supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I
ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it
entails.CheersSteve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort"
V1703From: koob@... Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52
PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my
vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because
i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post
some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use,
i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just
fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even
came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope
to get soon some usefull answers. Roland,Vega 799,
Helsinki[Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]
Email me off group on steve@...
Cheers
Steve
From: lewills30@...
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:28 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.
Hi Steve,
Is this the stainless steel arch at the top of the bulk head?
While I am redoing my boat I was going to beef up this mast support system while
I have the time to take care of it. Please send me the info on what you have for
this. Also I think I would like to go with the hinged mast system as well. I
will be lowering my mast by myself and the hinged system sounds like that is
what I need to do? Please advise.
Thanks,
Larry
V-2761
Sent from Windows Mail
From: steve@...Sent: Wednesday,
February 12, 2014 1:07 AMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Hi RolandI supply a Mast Support System for £110 plus carriage. I
ahve attached the fitting instructions so you can see what it
entails.CheersSteve Birch Vega "Southern Comfort"
V1703From: koob@... Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:52
PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AlbinVega] vega mast support
problem.Hello dear Vega ovners, during this winter i am refreshing my
vega 799. I cant find exact info where and how you beef up mast support, because
i cant anymore close boat doors. If it would be possible, someone could post
some photos or some instructions how to replace it. What material should i use,
i heard about stainless steel, aluminium, but then there has been guys just
fixing it with plywood. And aperently my vega dont have mast leg, did they even
came with those, and is there some internet shops where i could order it.. Hope
to get soon some usefull answers. Roland,Vega 799,
Helsinki[Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]
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