Used outboard choice (need advice)

alcyone · Dec 29, 2011

I had a tough time locating a tiller handle for a 9.9 Yamaha ($100)... had to drive 150mi to pickup. Recommend going with something with a tiller handle.

Tom J · Dec 29, 2011

Do you really need a tiller for the Chrysler? If the prop doesn't interfere with the ruldder, you might never need to turn the engine. Would be nice to at least have an emergency tiller for the engine, in case the rudder breaks.

Sumner · Dec 29, 2011

I'm never very good at knowing what things should cost or sell for, but $500-$800 seems high to me for both of those outboards. We bought an early 2000's Nissan 5 HP long shaft for $600 and it is a 4 stroke. We bought it for the dinghy, but used it just fine on the Mac once.

I use to be a big 2 stroke fan when I rode bikes, but personally I'd look for a 4 stroke for an outboard. Better fuel mileage if that ever becomes important. Also some lakes are starting to outlaw 2 strokes.

I do like the electric start for safety reasons. If something happens to you then whoever else is crew needs to be able to start the outboard. We switched from a good Honda 8 HP to our Tohatsu for mainly that reason. Too bad we don't live closer I'd consider selling you the Honda for $500 and it is a '90.

Since it is winter I'd keep looking a little longer, I'll bet you find a better deal and I'd want the tiller. You can stop, dock and maneuver in tight places a lot better using the outboard in conjunction with the rudder and if you ever had rudder problems you could steer home with the outboard as Tom mentioned above.

Good luck,

Sum

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caguy · Dec 29, 2011

I don't know about Carolina laws regarding 2 strokes and lakes, but I would go for a 4 stroke. If you do you can get a lower hp motor that might help off set some of the increased weight of a 4 stroke. A 7hp 4 stroke would serve you well. If you can't find electric start you can always add later. I did that with my Tohatsu 18 hp motor that was bigger than I wanted but I couldn't refuse the price ($600). For less than $100 I picked up a fly wheel and a starter motor. The motor had only been used once and was in pristine condition. The deals are out there especially this time of the year.

shipwreck66 · Dec 30, 2011

All these motors seem a bit pricey for what he's got. If all you want is a good 2 stroke there are countless to be had in great shape for under $500. I know everyone loves the new 4-strokes since they are so good for mother earth blah blah blah but... they are heavy as hell. I have a 1964 Evinrude 9.5hp that weighs 52lbs, runs great, easy to get parts. When I tried the new 9.9 4 stroke version it took two of us to lift the damn thing onto the back of my C22, then to discover that a new engine mount would be required. I like being able to walk down the dock with an outboard, stepping on the boat and switching them out, that's why I love 2 strokes.

Doug L · Dec 30, 2011

Electric start is nice to have. If you go overboard is the admiral going to be able to sail or power over to you? Or is she just going to E-harmony.com?
I have not been too happy with 2 strokes, they are smokey and smell nasty, even when mixing the oil a little light. But they are readily available, and cheaper and a lot lighter than the 4 strokers. $500-700 sounds like a lot for either of the motors you mentioned. If you linked the Chrysler to the tiller, you would not need a handle.

MrBill_FLL · Dec 30, 2011

if the suzi is long enough, that's what I'd get. given those 2 engines.
no way would I touch a Chrysler.

you could go smaller. a 6-8hp long shaft w/ low pitch prop.

Right On! · Dec 31, 2011

We just bought a 2002 Nissan 6hp for-stroke long shaft in like new condition for $450. He was asking $600 in the add on craigs list. The guy said there is only probably 10 hours on it. It was his kicker motor on his fishing boat. I looks like a new one. I ordered the high thrust "elephant ear" prop for it a couple of days ago. The deals are out there..get a four stroke. I checked craigs list every morning for three weeks..most people are negotiable. I just asked the guy "if he would consider taking any less?" $450 was a deal. The mercury, nissan and tohatsu four strokes are all identical "made by tohatsu" 30 hp and under. Mine sounds like a sewing machine when idleing. We love ours.

Right On! · Dec 31, 2011

BTW Our motor weighs 59lbs. Not bad for a four-stroke. we are going with the HT prop because our came equiped with high speed prop.

Sumner · Dec 31, 2011

Right On! said:
BTW Our motor weighs 59lbs. Not bad for a four-stroke. we are going with the HT prop because our came equiped with high speed prop.

The same one we bought used for $600, I'm not a good negotiator :neutral:, in fact I didn't even try. Ours is the 5 HP, just a different carb and you can make the 4 HP or 5 HP a 6 HP with about $140 carb change. I didn't feel it was worth the effort since we never ran it wide open when we did have it on the Mac the one time.

I did change the prop from the 8 pitch that was on it to a 6 pitch. With the 8 pitch it would just barely get the inflatable on plane with only one person in it. Since that wasn't usually the case and since we wanted it as a backup for the Mac outboard we changed to the 6 and kept the 8 as a spare.

At the time I didn't know about the 'sailPro' model and if I'd had know that I would of gotten the larger dia. 6 pitch they sell for that model. If you were running the 4,5 or 6 HP full time on a sailboat I'd get that prop (Tohatsu Part Number 399B645121)....

http://www.tohatsuoutboardparts.com/Props-and-Hardware.html

Those Nissan/Tohatsu/Merc 4,5,6 HP are a great motors an aren't like you said aren't that heavy. We also really like the 3.5 HP that we now have for the inflatable. Also starts and runs great,

Sum

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Sumner · Dec 31, 2011

On Porpoise said:
........Sum, is that Honda 8HP a 4 stroke as well? If you could get it on the back of an Old Dominion Freight Line truck safely I may be interested. I could ship it here for short money with my great discount.....

Yes it is....

... but the only freight pickup here would go up to Salt Lake City first (300 miles) and I don't remember who they were. There is no terminal here, but I've received items like my mill and lathe via truck line.

It isn't electric start and came with the boat, so I don't know how many hours it has on it or when the impeller was last replaced. We used it on the trip to Idaho and Canada and a short trip to Lake Powell and then the long trip when we tried to sail the length of the lake. All together we have maybe run 5 gallons of gas through it and last used it 2 years ago.

I modified it so that you could give it throttle in reverse. Also some of the tilt parts were missing so I made new ones and improved on the whole tilt situation. I also partially broke a small part in the carb linkage, but it has been working fine. There is more on the outboard here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outboard-related-index.html

... we really don't need it anymore since we now have 5 outboards that all work, but I hate selling used items as I always worry about them breaking for the new owner right after purchase.

If you are still interested PM me and we will see if some how we could get it to you. If it didn't work for you or you didn't want it after getting it I'd refund the money if you took it down to Neosho and left it with a friend. We hope to be by there next summer. Also we hope to leave for Florida in about a month and we aren't going through Missouri on the way there, but maybe the outboard could be dropped off at a freight depot along the way,

Sum

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Doug L · Dec 31, 2011

I used to have a Mac 25 with a 9.9 Johnson Sailmaster 2 stroke. I don't think I ever opened the throttle, probably 5 hp with the right prop, is all you need,

Used outboard choice (need advice)

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