Undo a Bad Idea

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May 17, 2009
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2 28 Solomons Island, MD
How do you strip paint off of a fiberglass salon floor? One of the previous owners of my beloved-but-modest 28' Morgan opted to use turquoise paint in the non-skid areas and now it is flaking off in little diamond shapes. I am doing my own work and not sure what is the best way to get the paint off without harming the fiberglass. I looks like some leftover turquoise marine paint slapped on there.

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Oct 22, 2008
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- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Re: Undo a Dummy Idea

Any of the standard marine paint strippers should do the job relatively well.
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Paint removal

Almost any paint remover should get it off. Be careful however, with what brand/type you use. Some of it may be too toxic, or have too many strong fumes to use on an inside project. My recommendation would be to go to a major paint store, and ask about what they have that you can use inside.
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Almost any paint remover should get it off. Be careful however, with what brand/type you use. Some of it may be too toxic, or have too many strong fumes to use on an inside project. My recommendation would be to go to a major paint store, and ask about what they have that you can use inside.
You also need one that is safe for gelcoat/fiberglass. Some of the no-marine brands will literally melt and soften the gelcoat.. If it is on a non-skid pattern apply, let it sit for a while and then use a very coarse nylon bristle brush. You might need a few brushes because the paint stripper can soften the bristles..
 
Feb 19, 2008
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pearson 26 Pearson 26 Knowlton.
Re: Undo a Dummy Idea

With regards to paint removal....Make sure that you only use paint removers that are made to be used on fiberglass as others will soften the gelcoat and possibly leave you with more of a mess than you now have...good luck!
 

BrianW

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Jan 7, 2005
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Hunter 26 Guntersville Lake, (AL)
Re: Undo a Dummy Idea

Since I'm a safety geek by profession, I have to recommend that you NOT use paint removers that contain methylene chloride. It is a known cancer causer, it wrecks your liver and kidneys, and it forms carbon monoxide inside your body (your body's attempt to make it less toxic). You can get it inside your body through your skin and by inhaling it. If that ain't enough, it's bad for the environment because it is an ozone depleter. Bottom line... it's some seriously bad sh*t. BrianW
 
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Oct 22, 2008
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- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
This is manageable as risks go, using a proper respirator and gloves with a tyvek bunny suit...which I generally recommend for most paint stripping work anyways. However, there are less caustic and less environmentally damaging paint strippers like Soy Strip available nowadays...

Since I'm a safety geek by profession, I have to recommend that you NOT use paint removers that contain methylene chloride. It is a known cancer causer, it wrecks your liver and kidneys, and it forms carbon monoxide inside your body (your body's attempt to make it less toxic). You can get it inside your body through your skin and by inhaling it. If that ain't enough, it's bad for the environment because it is an ozone depleter. Bottom line... it's some seriously bad sh*t. BrianW
 
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safe stripper

I would recommend Peel Away Marine Stripper. I have used it and it works (if you follow the directions). No nasty fumes and clean up is easy also. Many Sherwin Williams stores have it but there are many different versions of the product. Buy the 'Marine' grade and you'll be a happy stripper.
 
Jan 2, 2008
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Hunter 33 (Cherubini design Forked River, Barnegat Bay, NJ
Unfortunatly methylene chloride is the only thing that actualy works in real time. All strippers that do the job contain some percentage of it. .You just can't telll how much from the label. It WILL soften gel coat, but it takes some time to do so. You CAN do this. Spread the stripper (your choice of brand) on with a brush and ignoring the instructions, start working it with a stripping brush. This is a small, stiff brush. Lowes sells a nice one in the paint department. As soon as the paint is loose or disolved hit it with water and wipe it away. Flush with lots of water. This has worked for me many times.

I'm not sure thye Tyvec suit is necessary unless you work sloppy, but good gloves are a good idea. I lay a box fan over the forward hatch to move lots of air through the boat.
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
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S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
Peel away has a good reputation, but I did the homework on it and the stuff you can buy at home depot is the same as the marine stuff. How do I know? I am a chemist so I read the MSDS's and they had the percentages and types of caustic and they were exactly the same. I posted the exact names before. I will try to find it and post the exact names, because they do make a few different types.
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
Your best bet may to be try Peel Away. Others have used it. They have a marine version too, but it is expensive and some have reported contacting the manufacturer who said there is no difference. One of their marine versions (Marine Strip 2) says it won't harm barrier coats. I checked and the MSDS's report the EXACT same actives and percentages for Peel Away 1 and Marine Strip 2, so I'd buy the former at your local home depot for about $27/bucket.

For overhead work, personal protection is an absolute must as this stuff is VOC free, but 46% pure caustic. Full bunny suit, gloves and eye protection are a must and keep a hose handy just in case. Strong bases are very soapy feeling and very hard to wash off your skin...pretty much because they are too busy dissolving it! I am a chemist and I used to work with 50% sodium hydroxide...lets just say working with it overhead would make me don a bunny suit with a hood and googles, not just safety glasses.

Try a search on sailboatowners for more information and the site below.

http://www.dumondchemicals.com/html/peelaway2.htm
 
Mar 3, 2008
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Beneteau 390 -Solomons, MD
We own a fiberglass boat also. The hull was in a pretty bad shape; dull, dirty with some paint spots. I wet sanded it and used acetone for the most 'stubborn' paint spots. Then I buffed and waxed it. It looks like new now!
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
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CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
How do you strip paint off of a fiberglass salon floor?
This spring I undertook to strip the ancient antifouling off our Sandpiper 565 (18.5 ft trailer-sailor). As part of that process i experimented with just about every possible means to remove paint from fiberglass - scraping, sanding, chemical strippers.

To save time i'll cut to the conclusion: Use a soy-based paint stripper. I ended up with two products that performed about equally:
- Capt. John's Boat Brite paint stripper (I bought from West Marine)
- Franmar Soy-Gel (I bought directly from the Canadian distributer; there's also a stronger version called Soy-Strip that's more like Boat Brite)

Why am I recommending these?
- nearly no toxicity compared to other strippers. Not caustic either. Gloves are of course recommended but the stuff is merely a mild irritant to skin, not a health hazard. Bunny-suit not required
- doesn't have toxic fumes. No risk from stripper vapours.
- better for the environment than other strippers. Of course once the paint is removed the used residue is as toxic as the paint it now holds.
- takes a longer time to work, but remains removable for much longer as well. Works really well if put on and left overnight. Can be reactivated by water or a light second coat.
- easy removal. You can scrape, you can pressure-wash it off, you can use a wet scrub brush and loosen the gunk off enough to wipe off. I did all 3.
- easy clean-up: soap and water. No need to wipe down with acetone.
- most effective stripper. Compared to others i tried, this did the best job per application, and it left the least amount of paint traces. For me it usually took two applications/scrape cycles to completelyremove the old antifouling and get down to gelcoat.
- kindest to the gel coat. After stripping and washing, the gelcoat is smooth and shiny. No pitting, no loosening.

I also tried Star10 and InterStrip. These are solvent-based. They did work, and they are faster, but they weren't as effective per application, more hazardous to work with, and if you leave them on for more than a couple hours, can't be scraped off.

The soy strippers are more expensive than most others, but in terms of labour and hassle, I believe they do a better job with less effort, and ounce for ounce, the soy product will strip a larger area.

No I'm not a salesman. I learned this by trying everything else first. ;)
 
Oct 2, 2008
1,424
Island Packet 31 Brunswick, Ga
How do you strip paint off of a fiberglass salon floor? One of the previous owners of my beloved-but-modest 28' Morgan opted to use turquoise paint in the non-skid areas and now it is flaking off in little diamond shapes. I am doing my own work and not sure what is the best way to get the paint off without harming the fiberglass. I looks like some leftover turquoise marine paint slapped on there.

Thanks!
Hi Sailorsues,
I wish you had a picture of the floor, that would maybe answer the question: Could you leave the paint in place and build a hardwood grating over it? I am refering to a project such as a oak or teak grating like i have seen covering bilge or cockpit.
It seems like the paint remover would be quite messy and difficult to do indoors. There is no place to rinse into except the bilge. And you may end up with a finish that you can't live with anyway.
Another approach: Try to sand and scrape out all the flaky parts, and then repaint, using a non skid additive where needed.
And then there is always Carpet!
Good luck!
keith
 
Jan 19, 2009
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2 422 MD
undo an oops

I also used the acetone on my 42 Pearson, very sparingly...dabs not rubs and you are right! It works great. It will dull the surface, however, after a compound/wax and light buff, it does look untouched! good suggestion.
 
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