I would like to know from the Hunter Experts if they think the Hunter 38 is a real blue water boat, that will be used in Hawaii? I am looking at a beautiful 1990 Hunter 38.
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Hunter 38?
I don't think Hunter made a 380 in 1990. I think that the model is a 37.5 in that year. Does it have a backstay? chuckwolfe@mail.com
I don't think Hunter made a 380 in 1990. I think that the model is a 37.5 in that year. Does it have a backstay? chuckwolfe@mail.com
Blue Water
Here we go again - the never ending debate. First of all the Hunter 380 is a 37 foot boat not a 38, they just call it a 380, much the the 420 which is a 40 foot boat, and the 460 which is a 44 foot boat. Secondly I own a 380 and would never take it off shore, in the condition I bought it in. That's like buying a corvette and racing it at Indy. Lots of work, lots of dollars, lots of extra stuff you could make it work, but do you want to race a corvette at Indy or an Indy car at indy. You can do whatever you want but boats like cars are made for different purposes, that's why there are so many different types out there. To each their own. My 380 is perfect for what I do, but if I was to set of on an around the world journey it would not be on the same boat. I love it, but... Just my 2 cents. PS they didn't make a 380 till late 98 , a 376 in the years prior, and a 37.5 prior to that. Good luck with your search Bob Knott S/V Serenity
Here we go again - the never ending debate. First of all the Hunter 380 is a 37 foot boat not a 38, they just call it a 380, much the the 420 which is a 40 foot boat, and the 460 which is a 44 foot boat. Secondly I own a 380 and would never take it off shore, in the condition I bought it in. That's like buying a corvette and racing it at Indy. Lots of work, lots of dollars, lots of extra stuff you could make it work, but do you want to race a corvette at Indy or an Indy car at indy. You can do whatever you want but boats like cars are made for different purposes, that's why there are so many different types out there. To each their own. My 380 is perfect for what I do, but if I was to set of on an around the world journey it would not be on the same boat. I love it, but... Just my 2 cents. PS they didn't make a 380 till late 98 , a 376 in the years prior, and a 37.5 prior to that. Good luck with your search Bob Knott S/V Serenity
WHAT IS A TRUE BLUE WATER BOAT
IS IT HER LENGTH, BEAM, KEEL, RUDDER LOCATION, DISPLSACEMENT OR BALAST, OR HER RIG, IT CAN BE ALL OF THESE AND NOT NECESSAY ANY OF THEM, IF YOY VIEW THE PARDEY'S, A BRISTOL CHANNEL CUTTER THEY ENJOY, OR THE ROTH'S WITH A LARGER FIN KEEL RACER CRUISER, EACH TO THEIR OWN STYLE, YET A BLUE WATER BOAT MUST BEHAVE IN THE WORSE WEATHER CONDITIONS, HIGH SEA'S STRONG WINDS, AND LARGE SWELLS, SHE MUST CUT THROUGH THOSE WAVES WITH FULL CONTROL, SHE MUST HAVE A RIG, EASY TO CHANGE SAILS, SHE MUST BE EASY ON THE REW, ALSO THE SIZE OF THE CREW IS VERY IMPORTANT, LIKE ANY 12 STEP PROGRAM, IT TEACHES TO RELY ON A SUPER POWER "GOD" AND YOURSELF, AND MAYBE YOUR WIFE, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU AS A SKIPPER HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE CREW, SO YOU'LL NEED A BOAT YOU CAND HANDLE NOT 4 OR 5, WITH A 38 FOOTER, IF THOSE SAILS NEED CHANGING, AND IF THEY'RE WET, THE CAN WEIGH A TON, AND IF YOU'RE AT THE WHEEL, CAN YOUR WIFE MANAGE ? A BLUE WATER BOAT IS SET UP TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT, SAILS TRIMED AND BALANCED, WIND STEERING VANE SET, CN YOU DO THESE THINGS WITH A HUNTER 37.5 LEGEON, SHE'S GOT FREEBOARD EQUALLING A 150% JIB, HER COMPANIONWAY IS TOO LARGE,SHE'S IN FACT A COASTAL CRUISER, YES IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO TAKE HER AROUND THE WORLD YOU COULD, SOME GUY SAILED TO THE PHILLIPINES FROM C. AMERICA, IN A DUGOUT, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A HUNTER TO MAKE INTO A BLUE WATER BOAT, CHECK OUT THE 1980 - 1984 37 FOOTER'S, THEY AT LEAST ARE CUTTER RIGS FOR BETTER SAIL BALANCE, HEAVY, MUCH LOWER FREEBOARD, SMALLER WORKABLE STERN, FULL COCKPIT COAMING, MANY OPENING PORTS, AND ABOUT 25K CHEAPER, LOTS OF LUCK, I HOPE I HAVEN'T BORED YOU, BUT THE OLDER 37, IS A LOT KINDLIER THAN THE 37.5 NEWER BOAT.
IS IT HER LENGTH, BEAM, KEEL, RUDDER LOCATION, DISPLSACEMENT OR BALAST, OR HER RIG, IT CAN BE ALL OF THESE AND NOT NECESSAY ANY OF THEM, IF YOY VIEW THE PARDEY'S, A BRISTOL CHANNEL CUTTER THEY ENJOY, OR THE ROTH'S WITH A LARGER FIN KEEL RACER CRUISER, EACH TO THEIR OWN STYLE, YET A BLUE WATER BOAT MUST BEHAVE IN THE WORSE WEATHER CONDITIONS, HIGH SEA'S STRONG WINDS, AND LARGE SWELLS, SHE MUST CUT THROUGH THOSE WAVES WITH FULL CONTROL, SHE MUST HAVE A RIG, EASY TO CHANGE SAILS, SHE MUST BE EASY ON THE REW, ALSO THE SIZE OF THE CREW IS VERY IMPORTANT, LIKE ANY 12 STEP PROGRAM, IT TEACHES TO RELY ON A SUPER POWER "GOD" AND YOURSELF, AND MAYBE YOUR WIFE, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU AS A SKIPPER HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE CREW, SO YOU'LL NEED A BOAT YOU CAND HANDLE NOT 4 OR 5, WITH A 38 FOOTER, IF THOSE SAILS NEED CHANGING, AND IF THEY'RE WET, THE CAN WEIGH A TON, AND IF YOU'RE AT THE WHEEL, CAN YOUR WIFE MANAGE ? A BLUE WATER BOAT IS SET UP TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT, SAILS TRIMED AND BALANCED, WIND STEERING VANE SET, CN YOU DO THESE THINGS WITH A HUNTER 37.5 LEGEON, SHE'S GOT FREEBOARD EQUALLING A 150% JIB, HER COMPANIONWAY IS TOO LARGE,SHE'S IN FACT A COASTAL CRUISER, YES IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO TAKE HER AROUND THE WORLD YOU COULD, SOME GUY SAILED TO THE PHILLIPINES FROM C. AMERICA, IN A DUGOUT, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A HUNTER TO MAKE INTO A BLUE WATER BOAT, CHECK OUT THE 1980 - 1984 37 FOOTER'S, THEY AT LEAST ARE CUTTER RIGS FOR BETTER SAIL BALANCE, HEAVY, MUCH LOWER FREEBOARD, SMALLER WORKABLE STERN, FULL COCKPIT COAMING, MANY OPENING PORTS, AND ABOUT 25K CHEAPER, LOTS OF LUCK, I HOPE I HAVEN'T BORED YOU, BUT THE OLDER 37, IS A LOT KINDLIER THAN THE 37.5 NEWER BOAT.
To TOM M.
Tom, as the owner of a 1979 Hunter 37 Cutter I loved your conclusion. But you really must learn to write in lowercase. And with some punctuation. I have seen other interesting comments from you but generally skip them. They are just too hard on the eyes(and ears). All CAPS really is like yelling. Ed(eschenck@ezo.net)
Tom, as the owner of a 1979 Hunter 37 Cutter I loved your conclusion. But you really must learn to write in lowercase. And with some punctuation. I have seen other interesting comments from you but generally skip them. They are just too hard on the eyes(and ears). All CAPS really is like yelling. Ed(eschenck@ezo.net)
We like ours!
Roy, We have a 92 37'5 which we feel is a very capable boat. We've survived a storm with winds in excess of 75 knots and felt our boat took good enough care of us we called Hunter to express our appreciation. We have found our boat easy for may wife and I to handle and like her sailing characteristics. She handles well under sail and in the harbor, all you got to do is take the time to learn what she wants, which is true for any boat. We've owned her since '92, push the seasons with her and would be just as excited to buy her again! Good Luck, Cap't Dan Serendipity Too
Roy, We have a 92 37'5 which we feel is a very capable boat. We've survived a storm with winds in excess of 75 knots and felt our boat took good enough care of us we called Hunter to express our appreciation. We have found our boat easy for may wife and I to handle and like her sailing characteristics. She handles well under sail and in the harbor, all you got to do is take the time to learn what she wants, which is true for any boat. We've owned her since '92, push the seasons with her and would be just as excited to buy her again! Good Luck, Cap't Dan Serendipity Too
Visit other factories
My suggestion is to visit the Hunter factory in Fla. look carefully at how they put the boat together and the attitude of the employees towards the finished product. Then take the admiral up to visit the yards at Mt.Desert,Me. and see how they put a Hinckley or Morris together. "...in the morning you'll begin to see the light"...well worth the effort if you are going to buy new.
My suggestion is to visit the Hunter factory in Fla. look carefully at how they put the boat together and the attitude of the employees towards the finished product. Then take the admiral up to visit the yards at Mt.Desert,Me. and see how they put a Hinckley or Morris together. "...in the morning you'll begin to see the light"...well worth the effort if you are going to buy new.
Hunter = Blue Water?
As Bob said: Not off the showroom floor. Hunters are coastal cruisers with an occassional race thrown in for fun. (IMHO) Can they go offshore? Sure! Will you need extra equipment or will you need to change a few things before you go offshore for an extended period? Sure! Will you feel comfortable in the boat? Sure! Will you feel comfortable on the boat in a severe storm after the third year of a four year circumnavigation? Probably not. Good boats, just not built specifically to handle the Southern Ocean or the Bering Sea. Want the toughest boat on the planet? Buy a submarine; I hear you can use the periscope for a mast, but the wetted surface area will give you a PHRF of about 10,000. Seriously, if you're looking to do coastal cruising in Hawaii, buy the boat. If you're looking to sail from Hawaii to every island within 3000 miles in a two to three year period, you'll have a lot of upgrading to do in preparation. Trade-offs are everything, no? Jay
As Bob said: Not off the showroom floor. Hunters are coastal cruisers with an occassional race thrown in for fun. (IMHO) Can they go offshore? Sure! Will you need extra equipment or will you need to change a few things before you go offshore for an extended period? Sure! Will you feel comfortable in the boat? Sure! Will you feel comfortable on the boat in a severe storm after the third year of a four year circumnavigation? Probably not. Good boats, just not built specifically to handle the Southern Ocean or the Bering Sea. Want the toughest boat on the planet? Buy a submarine; I hear you can use the periscope for a mast, but the wetted surface area will give you a PHRF of about 10,000. Seriously, if you're looking to do coastal cruising in Hawaii, buy the boat. If you're looking to sail from Hawaii to every island within 3000 miles in a two to three year period, you'll have a lot of upgrading to do in preparation. Trade-offs are everything, no? Jay
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