The traveler on the H23 is right at the base of the cabin hatch. It would be nice if the main sheet attached at the end of the boom, thereby moving the traveler to the stern. Has anyone ever done this? I saw a Precision 23 this weekend and they hung the main sheet block from the back stay - they did not even have a traveler. This doesn't seem like too good of an idea.
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Jon Bastien
traveller relocation
Sounds like a great theory, but I see one major problem - The traveller will interfere with the tiller, unless it is raised up over the tiller somehow. This may be why the sheet block was attached to the backstay on the Precision boats (Though this seems an odd practice). Personally, I find that the traveller doesn't get in the way too much when I'm moving around the boat (though my First Mate may disagree). And having the traveller sure beats the pad-eye in the center of the cockpit that is found on the 240 and 260... --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
Sounds like a great theory, but I see one major problem - The traveller will interfere with the tiller, unless it is raised up over the tiller somehow. This may be why the sheet block was attached to the backstay on the Precision boats (Though this seems an odd practice). Personally, I find that the traveller doesn't get in the way too much when I'm moving around the boat (though my First Mate may disagree). And having the traveller sure beats the pad-eye in the center of the cockpit that is found on the 240 and 260... --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
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Keith Smoot ,S/V Gwaihir, 1987 H-23
traveler relocation on H-23`
I have ofetn wondered about moving the traveler. Raised on short stand-offs to clear the tiller would work, but you would loose the ability to raise the tiller to clear the cockpit for dinner. Also, the only thing to mount the traveler to is through the transom, which does not appear to be strong enough. A stainless steel backing plate would help, but would it be enough? Thoughts? Comments? First time caller, give me a moo!
I have ofetn wondered about moving the traveler. Raised on short stand-offs to clear the tiller would work, but you would loose the ability to raise the tiller to clear the cockpit for dinner. Also, the only thing to mount the traveler to is through the transom, which does not appear to be strong enough. A stainless steel backing plate would help, but would it be enough? Thoughts? Comments? First time caller, give me a moo!
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Edwin McDivitt
Traveller relocate
Although the traveller location may be inconvenient think of what you lose...controlling your sail shape. You would lose a lot of this I think by moving to the stern, plus would probably have to add a boom vang. The only time I've found it really inconvenient is at anchor - then I just slide it to the side.
Although the traveller location may be inconvenient think of what you lose...controlling your sail shape. You would lose a lot of this I think by moving to the stern, plus would probably have to add a boom vang. The only time I've found it really inconvenient is at anchor - then I just slide it to the side.
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mike43067
I agree with Ed
I agree with the last guy. I sailed a Siren 17 with transom sheeting. A triangular rope trapese arrangement was used to get over the tiller instead of a traveler but I could never get used to having my arms crossed as I steered with my right hand on the tiller and my left holding the sheet from the transom. On that boat I moved the sheeting point to mid boom with a block and cleat on the cockpit floor. I much prefer the traveler in front of the cockpit. Usually you are on a tack with the sheet way out to the side anyway.
I agree with the last guy. I sailed a Siren 17 with transom sheeting. A triangular rope trapese arrangement was used to get over the tiller instead of a traveler but I could never get used to having my arms crossed as I steered with my right hand on the tiller and my left holding the sheet from the transom. On that boat I moved the sheeting point to mid boom with a block and cleat on the cockpit floor. I much prefer the traveler in front of the cockpit. Usually you are on a tack with the sheet way out to the side anyway.
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John Thomas
Traveler at anchor
I would be afraid the boom on the 23 might not handle the additional stress placed on it by moving the mainsheet aft of the usual location (mid boom). This location provides for lees stress on the boom than an aft location. The sail shape would suffer greatly as well. If the traveler is getting in your way at anchor why not do what I do and just disconnect the mainsheet blocks from the traveler and move them to a life line stancion. This moves not only the mainsheet, but the entire boom out of the way. Good luck
I would be afraid the boom on the 23 might not handle the additional stress placed on it by moving the mainsheet aft of the usual location (mid boom). This location provides for lees stress on the boom than an aft location. The sail shape would suffer greatly as well. If the traveler is getting in your way at anchor why not do what I do and just disconnect the mainsheet blocks from the traveler and move them to a life line stancion. This moves not only the mainsheet, but the entire boom out of the way. Good luck
Mid-boom vs. end-boom sheeting/traveler
Good discussion by all. Personally I prefer the traveler at the companionway, even though the mainsheet sometimes fouls my compass on a broad reach. If I'm not mistaken, moving the mainsheet from mid-boom to the end of the boom should actually impose less force on the boom. Increasing the distance from the gooseneck to the sheeting point should yield a greater mechanical advantage. As a result, less force will have to be exerted on the boom to sheet it in. The wind-generated force on the mainsail remains the same regardless of the sheeting position. Another drawback with end-boom sheeting is that you will probably need a longer mainsheet, because the end of the boom swings more than the mid-point for a given change in sail trim. Add the vertical componenet and then multiply the resulting extra diaginal distance by the purchase of your mainsheet tackle (4 for a standard setup) and you will definitely have to get on the horn to West Marine. One other comment. I thought a boom vang was standard issue on an H23? Are there others out there who don't have one? Peter s/v Raven
Good discussion by all. Personally I prefer the traveler at the companionway, even though the mainsheet sometimes fouls my compass on a broad reach. If I'm not mistaken, moving the mainsheet from mid-boom to the end of the boom should actually impose less force on the boom. Increasing the distance from the gooseneck to the sheeting point should yield a greater mechanical advantage. As a result, less force will have to be exerted on the boom to sheet it in. The wind-generated force on the mainsail remains the same regardless of the sheeting position. Another drawback with end-boom sheeting is that you will probably need a longer mainsheet, because the end of the boom swings more than the mid-point for a given change in sail trim. Add the vertical componenet and then multiply the resulting extra diaginal distance by the purchase of your mainsheet tackle (4 for a standard setup) and you will definitely have to get on the horn to West Marine. One other comment. I thought a boom vang was standard issue on an H23? Are there others out there who don't have one? Peter s/v Raven
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Chuck
H22
My 81 H22 did not come with a boom vang, and I haven't really seen as yet where it appears it would make much difference. My old Catalina 22 had one and it most certainly benefitted from it.
My 81 H22 did not come with a boom vang, and I haven't really seen as yet where it appears it would make much difference. My old Catalina 22 had one and it most certainly benefitted from it.
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Wes
Don't believe a boom vang was standard equipment....at least not on my '86 H23. I added one along with several more cleats.
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