My recently purchased 1975 H25 poptop has neither a topping lift nor a traveler. Does anyone know if the boat was originally rigged with a topping lift? Maybe the guy who rigged the boat last didn't know about topping lifts. The back of the boom is attached by fixed wire to the backstay, which does no good for swinging the boom out at all. If the boat did not have a topping lift, has anyone installed one, and how much trouble was it? I suppose the main concern would be if you can put a block with 3 sheaves up top. Alternatively, I guess you could but a vang on, (anyone done that?) but having that third line from above comes in handy sometimes. Related somewhat, has anyone successfully installed a traveler on any boat (an H25 would be great) with a poptop? The only thing I can think of is installing risers to raise the traveler up above where the top of the coach cabin is when the top is raised. I have not found any hardware in any of the catalogs that would do this. Help, please.
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Steve Salisbury
topping lift
I have a 78 H25 and it too didn't have a topping lift. I purchased a solid vang from Garhauer which solved the problem nicely. I believe that you should stay with the bridgedeck traveler.
I have a 78 H25 and it too didn't have a topping lift. I purchased a solid vang from Garhauer which solved the problem nicely. I believe that you should stay with the bridgedeck traveler.
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Bryan Howell
Bridgedeck traveler?
Steve; What is a bridgedeck traveler? From its name I can guess, but I have not found anything other than standard Harken type track travelers that either surface mount on top of the coach, or at most about 4"-6" inches above the companionway opening on risers. Is this a brand name or a type, and what other info could you share with me? Thanks for the reply. Bryan Howell
Steve; What is a bridgedeck traveler? From its name I can guess, but I have not found anything other than standard Harken type track travelers that either surface mount on top of the coach, or at most about 4"-6" inches above the companionway opening on risers. Is this a brand name or a type, and what other info could you share with me? Thanks for the reply. Bryan Howell
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Jon Bastien / H25 'Adagio'
Bridgedeck traveller, and more
My '78 H25 has a traveller track that spans the cockpit just aft of the companionway. This seems to be the only place that I could comfortably mount a mainsheet traveller, as the stern is curved (hard to get track for) and the coach roof would create problems with companionway access unless the traveller were far enough forward. My only problem with the current location is that the cam cleat on the mainsheet block occasionally catches the lazarette hatch lids when the traveller is moved to one end or the other. To see a photo of my traveller, check out the photo forum on this site-- Search by model for photos of the H25, and then check out my post titled '2 Bimini tops on an H25'. The picture 'From the stbd quarter' shows the traveller the best. As for a topping lift, my boat has a fixed cable attached from the masthead to the end of the boom. I disconnect it when sailing to prevent the sail from getting beat up... If your boom is clipped to the backstay, it should be disconnected when the main is raised to allow the boom to swing. Otherwise, that cable is just there to keep the boom from falling into the cockpit when the boat is not under sail.
My '78 H25 has a traveller track that spans the cockpit just aft of the companionway. This seems to be the only place that I could comfortably mount a mainsheet traveller, as the stern is curved (hard to get track for) and the coach roof would create problems with companionway access unless the traveller were far enough forward. My only problem with the current location is that the cam cleat on the mainsheet block occasionally catches the lazarette hatch lids when the traveller is moved to one end or the other. To see a photo of my traveller, check out the photo forum on this site-- Search by model for photos of the H25, and then check out my post titled '2 Bimini tops on an H25'. The picture 'From the stbd quarter' shows the traveller the best. As for a topping lift, my boat has a fixed cable attached from the masthead to the end of the boom. I disconnect it when sailing to prevent the sail from getting beat up... If your boom is clipped to the backstay, it should be disconnected when the main is raised to allow the boom to swing. Otherwise, that cable is just there to keep the boom from falling into the cockpit when the boat is not under sail.
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Baker Evans
My topping lift idea
Good afternoon. My 25' has a fixed halyard attached to a ring on the masthead. I have puzzled over it as it is not long enough to actually reach the back end of the boom. I have the wire off the back stay too, but I don't think using that is helping the condition of the stay. Forget about running a third working halyard over the mast head as there are only two sets of shivs. You might be able to go aloft and attach a block on the masthead and then run a halyard through it. For the traveller, does your main sheet run from behind the tiller or right near the companion way? Mine is from the rear area and is fixed. I am thinking about installing a traveller, but they are a prety penny. Good luck BE
Good afternoon. My 25' has a fixed halyard attached to a ring on the masthead. I have puzzled over it as it is not long enough to actually reach the back end of the boom. I have the wire off the back stay too, but I don't think using that is helping the condition of the stay. Forget about running a third working halyard over the mast head as there are only two sets of shivs. You might be able to go aloft and attach a block on the masthead and then run a halyard through it. For the traveller, does your main sheet run from behind the tiller or right near the companion way? Mine is from the rear area and is fixed. I am thinking about installing a traveller, but they are a prety penny. Good luck BE
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Bryan Howell
Baker, thanks.
My main sheet also runs aft, as does my downhaul. I think maybe I'll just rig a preventer up instead of messing around with a traveler. Since racing sailboats is an oxymoron to me, I am mainly concerned about one fo my family getting seriously killed by the boom in a jibe. Just a pair mid-rise brackets for a Harken traveler are about $400.00 at BoatUS.
My main sheet also runs aft, as does my downhaul. I think maybe I'll just rig a preventer up instead of messing around with a traveler. Since racing sailboats is an oxymoron to me, I am mainly concerned about one fo my family getting seriously killed by the boom in a jibe. Just a pair mid-rise brackets for a Harken traveler are about $400.00 at BoatUS.
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R. A. Brown
H25 topping lift
My '82 h25 (box top) has a coated wire (lifeline? to prevent sail chafe)from the crane at the masthead down to the vicinity of the boom's end with an eye. The boat came with a three-foot length of light line. Fastened to the end of the wire I make several passes through a ring I installed in the boom-end fitting and the eye; a large stopper knot prevents unreaving. When hauled up short, this elevates the boom end just fine to control sail shape; loosened it prevents the boom from dropping when handing or reefing. It stays fastened at all times.
My '82 h25 (box top) has a coated wire (lifeline? to prevent sail chafe)from the crane at the masthead down to the vicinity of the boom's end with an eye. The boat came with a three-foot length of light line. Fastened to the end of the wire I make several passes through a ring I installed in the boom-end fitting and the eye; a large stopper knot prevents unreaving. When hauled up short, this elevates the boom end just fine to control sail shape; loosened it prevents the boom from dropping when handing or reefing. It stays fastened at all times.
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