Traffic Award

Peter

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Apr 26, 2016
271
Macgregor 26M ca
After a long lull in messages, newest member John Denny has created a huge amount of interest and message traffic. It's great to see a call for assistance so well answered by the Forum, and I think John deserves a big "Thanks" for waking the group from hibernation ;-) LOL

And a big tip-of-the-hat to those who have been of assistance, too!

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
www.sintacha.com
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
I am so grateful to everyone who has taken the time to respond.. I
have never had yacht of my own (except a laser dinghy) - although I
have been on a sailing holiday in the Med and crewed for someone to
Portugal - so I am VERY inexperienced and the engine in particular is
a mystery to me! I thought you might like to hear a bit of
background ....

The Vega I bought a couple of weeks ago (just before bonfire night
2011!) was in a very sorry state and I assumed it would need a major
overhaul and many new parts. It was absolutely full of junk (well I
thought it was junk) - I could not get past the steps to view the rest
of the yacht and the bunks and forepeak were crammed to the
ceiling...... I did not know it had a toilet until I emptied out all
the junk! The decks were very badly stained and none of the systems
could be checked so it was a BIG risk! Needless to say I could not
afford a survey - in fact transporting the 100 miles home was going to
be a problem. It was very reasonably priced because of the condition
and I thought I would make a low offer and see what happened. To my
surprise my offer was accepted and I just sat there in amazement! A
yacht that could take me around the world for ?4000! (not sure what
that is in dollars but I assure you it is not much money for a yacht
in the UK!)

After the initial excitement died down I started to doubt my sanity
and imagined all the things that could be wrong with it... osmosis,
seized engine, bent mast, etc... but I am a great believer that
everything man made can be fixed so I got a chap to load it onto his
truck with a Hiab crane and off we went back to its new home. I ran
round trying to work out how to fit the pit props to stop it falling
over and my wife took one look and walked away, my daughter said its
an embarrassment and my son laughed. I must admit - it did look
dreadful!

It took me a full 2 days to empty everything out of it - what an
experience that was! It was like a very extended, second hand,
Christmas morning! Amongst the junk were a brand new set of yachtlegs
(still boxed!!!!), a brand new Forgen wind generator, 10 tubes of
hemorrhoid cream, a box of condoms and a set of calling cards for
ladies of ill repute - which are, of course, my most treasured
possession!

I sat opening plastic bag after plastic bag wide eyed in
anticipation of what new and interesting items I would find. The
inventory would run to a small pamphlet -suffice to say it had
EVERYTHING. I include........ full toolkit, comprehensive set of
cleaning materials, enough paint to paint a pocket cruiser, rucksacks,
wet weather gear, wellies, more spares that the local chandlers, a GPS
from the 70's, and, weirdly, every type of boat cleaning and polishing
product known to man - I say weirdly because none of them had even
been opened never mind used - the dullest most neglected yacht in the
uk had the most comprehensive and expensive cleaning and polishing
materials on board! Good intentions or what!

Anyway I now had two huge piles of stuff on the ground - one rubbish
and one treasure! - and the yacht was empty (ish). Phew....

Then, after trawling t'interweb I came across this forum and, with
your help, started on a journey of renovation which so far has been
MUCH easier than I anticipated... Cillit Bang cleaned the decks, the
engine started first time and ran well (although I may need a new
cutless thing - must find out what that is!), and most things do
actually seem to work - I am amazed and delighted!

My plan is to launch her from Fiddlers Ferry marina - its actually an
old bit of canal (near Widnes - its a long way up the River Mersey and
VERY tidal - in fact you can walk in and out of the marina more often
than you can sail - but it is cheap! ) in March 2012 and take her for
a spin then bring her back and fix what I have broken then bugger off
around the world. Not told anyone that before - but I have been
having second thoughts about doing it so I need the pressure of going
public! Thats the story so far - it may all come to nothing but as it
stands at the moment I will set off for a cheap trip around the world
in the spring next year - must buy some more Stugeron! (I get seasick!)

Many thanks to all for the help and advice... just going to read my
new manuals!........ be back later with another question - good job
you do not charge!

John
 
Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
"10 tubes of hemorrhoid cream, a box of condoms and a set of calling cards for ladies of ill repute"

I have not laughed so much when reading a Vega forum post.... :)

Should we ask do you know much about the previous owner?? :) (I withdraw the question..)

Looks like you are equipped for all eventualities... :)

John V1447 Breakaway
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi John

I think you will find among the treasures a new control tube, a combi repair
kit, stern (cutlass) Bearing and many other Vega spares - I know coz I sold
most of them to Peter Bush (Previous owner)!

Good luck and patience

Cheers Steve B
 
Oct 30, 2011
221
Ah...... I think I had better go and get that bit of stainless steel
tubing out of the skip! Silly me...
Just going on a treasure hunt to find the repair kit and cutlass
bearing - wish I knew what they looked like!Steve
.....Just tried to join the Vega club... do I have to "snail mail"
the application form and send a cheque - that is a problem because I
do not have a cheque book! Any "online" method of doing it?
 
Oct 2, 2005
465
Your post was great. Sounds like you're having a blast. The cutlass bearing is the last bearing that supports the shaft where it protrudes from the stern. It is inexpensive, Steve has them, even if you tossed it by mistake. It looks like a short bit of black plastic pipe, about 1 and a half inches long, with a diameter of about 1 inch.

Craig Tern V1519 (Monterey, California)
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
When I emptied out the Ballad I also had 2 piles; good stuff and trash. Unfortunately there was a foot of water sloshing around inside the boat so a lot of things (like a Yanmar engine manual and all the charts) were sodden.
I bagged the trash, but a few days later emptied all the bags out on the driveway and checked everything ... just to be sure. I'm still missing the reefing crank from the mast and the through bolt to the boom, but maybe they were lost when the rig was removed.
I didn't have any hemeroid cream or condoms, but all the diving gear was pretty nice to find!

Thanks for the background story ... it sounds strangely familiar!

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
www.sintacha.com
 
Sep 24, 2008
346
John

The gps couldn't be that old - gps has only been fully operational since
1994. I don't think even satnav (the gpd predecessor) was around in the
early 70's, but I could be wrong.
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
I got a tour of the Research Vessle woods hole in Burmuda. They had Sat
nav and that was the first I ever saw though I knew about it. I think it
was about $10,000 then and the size of a medium suit case. I remember
being really impressed. Doug
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi John

Paypal is ok (steve@...) £10 join and £12 per year. Drop me
an email off group and I can attach an application form.
steve@...

Cheers

Steve B
 
Oct 31, 2019
303
You are both correct.

GPS wasn't the first satellite navigation system. This was called Transit,
or Navsat (the US Navy version). This system was military only and was in
place in the 1960s.

GPS was first planned in the early 1970s. The first category 1 satellites
were put up in the late 1970s and the system development began in earnest.
In the early 1980s development was well underway. I was working at Hewlett
Packard and read an engineering journal with an article that was at least
50 pages long (not for the non-engineer, but interesting).

The system had all 24 satellites in place in the early 1990s and was
basically operational in late 1993 or early 1994. The system was declared
fully operational in 1995.

It is interesting to note a couple things. Initially the system was to be
military. However when the Korean passenger was shot down by the Russians
back in the 1980s , Reagan opened the system up to civilian use. This had
was was called Selective Availability (the civilian system was downgraded
in accuracy). Clinton signed an executive order in the mid-1990s turning SA
off. Gore championed it and SA was turned of around 2000.
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
I don't know when that started, as I never owned one. In 1986 I bought
Loran as It had gotten pretty cheap. Satnave was still pretty pricey. I
was still using celestial navigation at sea. I used Loran for coast wise
and the Bahamas. I used my loran up until about 1997 just because I had
it and it worked OK. I still get out my sextant every now and then and
work a sight or two. I find it satisfying somehow??

Doug
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
Yes I think the consumer stnave may have been in the mid 1970's. AS
best I casn rember they were about $1,800.00 and the price steady came
down from there. Doug
 
Nov 25, 2010
19
Hi John,
Congratulations on your purchase. By the time you are ready to sail you would be quite knowledgable about your boat.
I quite enjoyed your story, and might be in the market for such a treasure dressed in trash.
Caesar


________________________________
From: johndenney <johndenney1@...>
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Traffic Award

I am so grateful to everyone who has taken the time to respond.. I
have never had yacht of my own (except a laser dinghy) - although I
have been on a sailing holiday in the Med and crewed for someone to
Portugal - so I am VERY inexperienced and the engine in particular is
a mystery to me! I thought you might like to hear a bit of
background ....

The Vega I bought a couple of weeks ago (just before bonfire night
2011!) was in a very sorry state and I assumed it would need a major
overhaul and many new parts. It was absolutely full of junk (well I
thought it was junk) - I could not get past the steps to view the rest
of the yacht and the bunks and forepeak were crammed to the
ceiling...... I did not know it had a toilet until I emptied out all
the junk! The decks were very badly stained and none of the systems
could be checked so it was a BIG risk! Needless to say I could not
afford a survey - in fact transporting the 100 miles home was going to
be a problem. It was very reasonably priced because of the condition
and I thought I would make a low offer and see what happened. To my
surprise my offer was accepted and I just sat there in amazement! A
yacht that could take me around the world for £4000! (not sure what
that is in dollars but I assure you it is not much money for a yacht
in the UK!)

After the initial excitement died down I started to doubt my sanity
and imagined all the things that could be wrong with it... osmosis,
seized engine, bent mast, etc... but I am a great believer that
everything man made can be fixed so I got a chap to load it onto his
truck with a Hiab crane and off we went back to its new home. I ran
round trying to work out how to fit the pit props to stop it falling
over and my wife took one look and walked away, my daughter said its
an embarrassment and my son laughed. I must admit - it did look
dreadful!

It took me a full 2 days to empty everything out of it - what an
experience that was! It was like a very extended, second hand,
Christmas morning! Amongst the junk were a brand new set of yachtlegs
(still boxed!!!!), a brand new Forgen wind generator, 10 tubes of
hemorrhoid cream, a box of condoms and a set of calling cards for
ladies of ill repute - which are, of course, my most treasured
possession!

I sat opening plastic bag after plastic bag wide eyed in
anticipation of what new and interesting items I would find. The
inventory would run to a small pamphlet -suffice to say it had
EVERYTHING. I include........ full toolkit, comprehensive set of
cleaning materials, enough paint to paint a pocket cruiser, rucksacks,
wet weather gear, wellies, more spares that the local chandlers, a GPS
from the 70\'s, and, weirdly, every type of boat cleaning and polishing
product known to man - I say weirdly because none of them had even
been opened never mind used - the dullest most neglected yacht in the
uk had the most comprehensive and expensive cleaning and polishing
materials on board! Good intentions or what!

Anyway I now had two huge piles of stuff on the ground - one rubbish
and one treasure! - and the yacht was empty (ish). Phew....

Then, after trawling t\'interweb I came across this forum and, with
your help, started on a journey of renovation which so far has been
MUCH easier than I anticipated... Cillit Bang cleaned the decks, the
engine started first time and ran well (although I may need a new
cutless thing - must find out what that is!), and most things do
actually seem to work - I am amazed and delighted!

My plan is to launch her from Fiddlers Ferry marina - its actually an
old bit of canal (near Widnes - its a long way up the River Mersey and
VERY tidal - in fact you can walk in and out of the marina more often
than you can sail - but it is cheap! ) in March 2012 and take her for
a spin then bring her back and fix what I have broken then bugger off
around the world. Not told anyone that before - but I have been
having second thoughts about doing it so I need the pressure of going
public! Thats the story so far - it may all come to nothing but as it
stands at the moment I will set off for a cheap trip around the world
in the spring next year - must buy some more Stugeron! (I get seasick!)

Many thanks to all for the help and advice... just going to read my
new manuals!........ be back later with another question - good job
you do not charge!

John
 
Mar 28, 2011
261
I bought a Satnav in 87, and I paid about $1400, used it in the Bahamas, worked great at the time, you simply had to wait several hours for a satellite to pop into view.MSG Frank Gallardo Jr.
U.S. Army Special Forces Retired

From: Douglas Pollard dougpol1@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Traffic Award
Yes I think the consumer stnave may have been in the mid 1970's. AS
best I casn rember they were about $1,800.00 and the price steady came
down from there. Doug
 
Sep 24, 2008
346
I think I remember Satnav being announced in a yachting mag at about 25k
when it first came out but I can't remember when.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Frank Gallardo Jr
imbissfrank@...wrote: