I'm planning to install a permanent toilet in my H27 ................ any ideas about holding tank placement and other issues ?????????????
Toilet instalation in H27 1979
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Probably the best place for the holding tank would be under the forepeak. Since the head is on the starboard side, an alternative spot would be under the starboard settee. Other issues are how to run the hoses and intake seacock location. You need to have a seacock for sea water for flushing and you have to run the hose so the boat doesn't sink when you heel over (water flowing into the head and then into the cabin). You need a vent hose and fitting for the tank vent. You need to run the hose from a pumpout fitting on the deck to the holding tank. You need to run a hose from the head to the holding tank. So, you have to think about how these hoses will run to your tank.
On a 27' boat, I'd go with a self-contained system.
That would be an "MSD" portapotty. The "MSD" designation means it's designed to be permanenty installed and is fitted for pumpout.
I know what you're thinking...but read this discussion all the way through to learn about the advantages over a marine toilet and holding tank and then I'll be glad to answer questions:
http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=489601&highlight=msd portapotty
That would be an "MSD" portapotty. The "MSD" designation means it's designed to be permanenty installed and is fitted for pumpout.
I know what you're thinking...but read this discussion all the way through to learn about the advantages over a marine toilet and holding tank and then I'll be glad to answer questions:
http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=489601&highlight=msd portapotty
Re: On a 27' boat, I'd go with a self-contained system.
Granted, I don't do a lot of extended cruising. But I and my wife do often sleep on our boat for a night or two, sometimes more.
I went through the same type of decision right after I bought my 1980 Hunter 36 -- either completely redo the fixed toilet with holding tank system-- or scrap it and install a high capacity portapotti with fresh water flush that also had msd fittings. I went with the latter and to date I have not msd'd it. After a two day stay on the boat, I just remove the bottom portion from the boat and dump/clean it at the marina's designated portapotti station. While a little bit gross to do, this is certainly a lot easier than trying to get my boat into the very tight msd pump-out berths we have in Sausalito. If the portapotti is used on day sails (particularly if for the #1 type), I don't bother to empty it; maybe even for a few months. I have no odor in the boat. Also it's a lot easier to instruct guests how to use a portapotti than a fixed system with the right sequence of pumps and valves operation. Also installation and cost of a portapotti is very favorable.
Point of this recount is: Do review Peggy's portapotti option.
Granted, I don't do a lot of extended cruising. But I and my wife do often sleep on our boat for a night or two, sometimes more.
I went through the same type of decision right after I bought my 1980 Hunter 36 -- either completely redo the fixed toilet with holding tank system-- or scrap it and install a high capacity portapotti with fresh water flush that also had msd fittings. I went with the latter and to date I have not msd'd it. After a two day stay on the boat, I just remove the bottom portion from the boat and dump/clean it at the marina's designated portapotti station. While a little bit gross to do, this is certainly a lot easier than trying to get my boat into the very tight msd pump-out berths we have in Sausalito. If the portapotti is used on day sails (particularly if for the #1 type), I don't bother to empty it; maybe even for a few months. I have no odor in the boat. Also it's a lot easier to instruct guests how to use a portapotti than a fixed system with the right sequence of pumps and valves operation. Also installation and cost of a portapotti is very favorable.
Point of this recount is: Do review Peggy's portapotti option.
I have a Port-a-Potty on my H-27 and replaced the fixed head on my newer H-30. Your choice depends on how you use your boat. If you do mostly day sails and an occasional overnight or few days once or twice a year I'd vote for the Port-a-Potty. It's easier to use and MUCH easier to keep clean and has no risk of smelling. A fixed head won't smell if you follow all the rules all the time but who among us is that perfect....I agree that dumping the Port-a-Potty is gross but it's better than living with the smell of a imperfectly maintained fixed system. You could put in a fixed pump out and vent line but why bother? I would make sure that you use the mounting brackets for the Port-a-Potty.
What I liked best about there PaP is the ability to lift it out and wash it down with a hose in the boat yard, back yard or even on the dock.......I used to empty it only 2 time a season or after an overnight. I did put some of that blue stuff in it after each empty cycle and always rinsed out the holding tank.....
What I liked best about there PaP is the ability to lift it out and wash it down with a hose in the boat yard, back yard or even on the dock.......I used to empty it only 2 time a season or after an overnight. I did put some of that blue stuff in it after each empty cycle and always rinsed out the holding tank.....
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