Tohatsu 3.5 overheat question

Oct 28, 2013
678
Hunter 20 Lake Monroe
So we sold our old Tohatsu 3.5 hp 4 stroke to our friend who needed a motor for his Hunter 212 that they just got. Our 3.5 was new when we got it and it was a perfect motor, never letting us down once. The Admiral just never got the hang of spinning it around for reverse so I had to get her a 4 hp with reverse. Anyway, we sell it to our friend, who is not mechanically inclined, and after a steep learning curve, I finally got him where he could start and use the motor. I made sure he checked for the cooling water stream right after it started each time. Before he took the motor I serviced it for him with a new pump impeller, oil change, and plug, then he heads north to MI for the summer with the boat and motor.
Long story short, he sailed the boat into a weedy patch on the lake and while attempting to motor out of it he noticed at some point that the motor was smoking so he shut it off. He some how then noticed that the cooling inlet was covered in weeds. I am guessing he cleared them, not sure, but after 45 mins of cooling down the motor finally, amazingly, it did re start and they got back to the ramp. He texted me while they were waiting on it to cool to see if I had time to confer with him about a "sailing emergency" but by the time I got it they were already back at the ramp.
So I told him how to check it out, make sure the ports were clear, that the oil still looked like honey as it had maybe 2 hours on it at this point and I never once had it get "dirty" looking the 2 seasons we used it. I figured if he got it really hot the oil might have gotten cooked. He said it checked out fine so they went back out and supposedly it ran "just fine". I am really amazed at this point but hey, everyone gets lucky every now and then.
So they bring the boat home Sunday and had a issue with oil running out of the motor while it was on its side. I asked if he had it on the "right" side, handle up, he said he did. Then he hit me with this. "Where can I get a new oil cap?" I asked why? He said because the old one had melted and was now leaking when it was on it's side! HOW HOT WOULD IT HAVE TO GET TO MELT THE OIL CAP??? I just can't believe the oil cap would get so hot that is deformed and the motor is "fine". I have not seen it yet but I am going to go look at it as I have to see this. I am going to do a compression test on it and check the oil myself. We might as well change it now as it is probably low or out since it leaked. This ought to be interesting...

Sam
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,095
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
As long as it was not running at high power levels, small outboard engines can usually tolerate a pretty severe overheat if allowed to cool slowly .. The other thing to consider is the ignition coil and trigger circuits.. even though it is still making sparks, a lot of heat can/sometimes does damage those components and shorten life//
Consider re-torquing the cylinder head as well.. sometimes an event like that will start a miniscule leak that will get worse with use.
The plastic oil cap probably starts "flowing" at around 300-350 F
 
Oct 28, 2013
678
Hunter 20 Lake Monroe
Thanks for the info. I will check out those items and re torque the head bolts. Any idea what the torque values are for the head bolts? The electrical items if weakened probably wont cause a problem for some time in shorter usable life.

thanks
Sam
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,095
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I don't know what the torque should be.. Maybe a quick call to a dealer's shop? After torqueing, check the valve clearance.. That is in the owner's manual..
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,060
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Hmm. On my Nissan 4 horse, same manufacturer, the proper stowed orientation is handle down...
 
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Oct 28, 2013
678
Hunter 20 Lake Monroe
This was actaully a Nissan 3.5. There are two lugs on the side of the motor opposite the handle that it rest on. The 2.5 and 3.5 both say to carry handle up. I think our 4 hp says handle down. I just follow the sticker on the side of them and the owners manual, that I just read.

Sam
 
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Feb 20, 2011
8,060
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
I could be wrong...matter of fact, I am! :doh:

It's because I thought I was wrong. But I was right.

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Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,199
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Make sure your buddy reads the owner's manual. He sounds pretty clueless. Don't be an enabler.