I will be leaving for the Bahamas tomorrow and will be off list for a while. Special thanks to Debbie and the service department at Whitney's Marine. On a routine haulout, we found the rudder to be cracked and delaminated and even though it is not covered by the warranty, she and Hunter Marine replaced it anyway. When Stuart marine wouldn't stand behind his work, Debbie and Sally again went to bat for me and found another contractor to chase the problem down. Many thanks for the all the help. Will post to the group when I return with details of the trip. Paul Bednarzyk S/V Knot Again H380
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Phil, Can you recommend?
Phil, we're going to take a couple of H 380s to Desolation Sound, etc. later on in the summer. Do you have any recommendations for digital cameras that work with iMacs that you know about? Les
Phil, we're going to take a couple of H 380s to Desolation Sound, etc. later on in the summer. Do you have any recommendations for digital cameras that work with iMacs that you know about? Les
Not Phil, but...
Les: I'm not Phil, but you are just looking for CHEAP advise. I have a Sony Mavica 81 (this is one of the older models now). The biggest advantage to the Mavica is that they use cheap floppies for the recording device. So you take all of the old floppies that AOL has sent you over the years and now you have a place to use them. I get between 9 and 20 pictures per floppy, depending on resolution and picture content (don't ask me why, cause I don't know). The resolution is good and they can be view immediately through the screen on the camera. You can copy a diskette on the camera and you can also initialize them on the camera. The negative side of these cameras is that they DO NOT have a view finder like a regular 35MM. They have an LCD or LED screen so it is what you see is what you get. The down side to this is that in bright sunlite it is sometimes difficult to see. They also do not use AA or AAA batteries. They have a NICAD or Lithium battery, so they need to be charged up periodically. I personally have two batteries. They also take about 3-5 seconds between shots to record on the floppy (you are not going to get any action shots of Orcas or Dolpins with these cameras. I will tell you that I love this camera. I know that Phil had one and was NOT pleased with his, but I think it was a Mavica 5x or 7x model with lower resolution. I have posted a couple of articles in the Photo Forum that you can look at. This will give you an idea of what to expect. If you what to contact me directly, feel free to e-mail me. Steve Dion s/v Heather Marie Rio Vista, CA
Les: I'm not Phil, but you are just looking for CHEAP advise. I have a Sony Mavica 81 (this is one of the older models now). The biggest advantage to the Mavica is that they use cheap floppies for the recording device. So you take all of the old floppies that AOL has sent you over the years and now you have a place to use them. I get between 9 and 20 pictures per floppy, depending on resolution and picture content (don't ask me why, cause I don't know). The resolution is good and they can be view immediately through the screen on the camera. You can copy a diskette on the camera and you can also initialize them on the camera. The negative side of these cameras is that they DO NOT have a view finder like a regular 35MM. They have an LCD or LED screen so it is what you see is what you get. The down side to this is that in bright sunlite it is sometimes difficult to see. They also do not use AA or AAA batteries. They have a NICAD or Lithium battery, so they need to be charged up periodically. I personally have two batteries. They also take about 3-5 seconds between shots to record on the floppy (you are not going to get any action shots of Orcas or Dolpins with these cameras. I will tell you that I love this camera. I know that Phil had one and was NOT pleased with his, but I think it was a Mavica 5x or 7x model with lower resolution. I have posted a couple of articles in the Photo Forum that you can look at. This will give you an idea of what to expect. If you what to contact me directly, feel free to e-mail me. Steve Dion s/v Heather Marie Rio Vista, CA
Digital Camera Tips
Well being in the business I guess I'll weigh in here. For people thinking about digital cameras remember; Remember buying a digital camera is like buying a computer. 2 days later it's 25% less and twice as fast. get the best camera you can it'll be obsolete before you've finished reading the manual. Megapixels if the only number to be concerned about. The higher the better. Pro camera are 6 megapixels and cost $4000+ (Fuji S1 is the leader here) and can make 16" x 20" pictues with the same clarity as film. Prosumer cameras (half consumer level / half pro level) are around 3.1 or 3.4 megapixels and cost around $900.00 (Nikon 990 is a great example of this high level camera) consumer level digital cameras are around 2.1 megapixels (Don't get lower than 2.1 or you'll be disappointed with the results) These cameras are approx. $400-$600 dollars and can make nice 4 x 5 snapshot type prints. Floppies are no longer needed as CompactFlash cards (think of them as a mini hard disk in the camera) can hold up to 340 megabytes of photos (hundreds). It looks like a mini PCMCIA card and pops into a reader that you hook to your CO (or MAC if you prefer working with the standard in digital photo manipulation) A nice printer, good quality photo paper for the printer and you are in business! Enjoy the next revolution in photography, but remember it'll be outdated before you learn to use it, so be prepared. Bob Knott S/V Serenity H380
Well being in the business I guess I'll weigh in here. For people thinking about digital cameras remember; Remember buying a digital camera is like buying a computer. 2 days later it's 25% less and twice as fast. get the best camera you can it'll be obsolete before you've finished reading the manual. Megapixels if the only number to be concerned about. The higher the better. Pro camera are 6 megapixels and cost $4000+ (Fuji S1 is the leader here) and can make 16" x 20" pictues with the same clarity as film. Prosumer cameras (half consumer level / half pro level) are around 3.1 or 3.4 megapixels and cost around $900.00 (Nikon 990 is a great example of this high level camera) consumer level digital cameras are around 2.1 megapixels (Don't get lower than 2.1 or you'll be disappointed with the results) These cameras are approx. $400-$600 dollars and can make nice 4 x 5 snapshot type prints. Floppies are no longer needed as CompactFlash cards (think of them as a mini hard disk in the camera) can hold up to 340 megabytes of photos (hundreds). It looks like a mini PCMCIA card and pops into a reader that you hook to your CO (or MAC if you prefer working with the standard in digital photo manipulation) A nice printer, good quality photo paper for the printer and you are in business! Enjoy the next revolution in photography, but remember it'll be outdated before you learn to use it, so be prepared. Bob Knott S/V Serenity H380
Digital Camera Question
How do you relate lense adjustment to regular 35 mm cameras. Example: a normal lense on a 35 mm is 45 to 50 mm, wide angle +/- 35 mm and telephoto is 100 +. If you wanted a Digital that the lense could be adjusted from 50 mm to 200 mm what do you look for ?
How do you relate lense adjustment to regular 35 mm cameras. Example: a normal lense on a 35 mm is 45 to 50 mm, wide angle +/- 35 mm and telephoto is 100 +. If you wanted a Digital that the lense could be adjusted from 50 mm to 200 mm what do you look for ?
Digital Lenses
Gordon, Not to get away from Paul's trip to the Bahamas but here's your answer. The digital camera's use of lenses is much different than 35MM. 35MM cameras lens has to cover the film plane approx. 1" behind the front of the camera. Digital cameras have to cover the CCD chip which has a maximum size of 1/2" with current technology thats affordable. So... a 17mm-35mm zoom lens for a 35MM camera (ultra wide to wide angle)covers the normal range for the digital chip. A 35mm-80mm zoom (Normal to slight telephoto zoom for 35mm) covers the telephoto aspects. of digital shooting. Many manufacturers are now making these ultra wide 35mm lenses. Nikon sells a 17-35mm F2.8 lens for $1500.00 It's primary use is for the Nikon D-1 digital camera that ost $5000, but the lense works great for 35mm too! Just remember it's a normal lens for digital, but it's a ultra wide lens for 35mm. Hope that makes sense. A 50mm lens is normal eyesight for a human when used on a 35mm camera. To get the same shot with digital you need a 24 or 28mm lens. This only pertains to high end digital cameras that changes lenses like 35mm cameras do. Most digital cameras that Hunter owners would buy have zoom lenses built in and have already taken the conversion factor into account and shipped with the proper lens since they are not switchable. Anyway if you have more questions feel free to write me off the list; Bob Knott rjknott@mediaone.net
Gordon, Not to get away from Paul's trip to the Bahamas but here's your answer. The digital camera's use of lenses is much different than 35MM. 35MM cameras lens has to cover the film plane approx. 1" behind the front of the camera. Digital cameras have to cover the CCD chip which has a maximum size of 1/2" with current technology thats affordable. So... a 17mm-35mm zoom lens for a 35MM camera (ultra wide to wide angle)covers the normal range for the digital chip. A 35mm-80mm zoom (Normal to slight telephoto zoom for 35mm) covers the telephoto aspects. of digital shooting. Many manufacturers are now making these ultra wide 35mm lenses. Nikon sells a 17-35mm F2.8 lens for $1500.00 It's primary use is for the Nikon D-1 digital camera that ost $5000, but the lense works great for 35mm too! Just remember it's a normal lens for digital, but it's a ultra wide lens for 35mm. Hope that makes sense. A 50mm lens is normal eyesight for a human when used on a 35mm camera. To get the same shot with digital you need a 24 or 28mm lens. This only pertains to high end digital cameras that changes lenses like 35mm cameras do. Most digital cameras that Hunter owners would buy have zoom lenses built in and have already taken the conversion factor into account and shipped with the proper lens since they are not switchable. Anyway if you have more questions feel free to write me off the list; Bob Knott rjknott@mediaone.net
Resource
I have had four digital cameras, two of which I had to return for poor performance - Kodak and Toshiba. Kodak had in the past a problem with the blue CCD, very blurry. Kodak also looks like little oil painted dots for skin tone. The Toshiba cannot focus in dim light and the manual states this. I sent it back when my wife was reading a newspaper with all the lights on and the Toshiba could not focus. I have seen too many bad pictures from the Sony camera. The floppy is what sells this camera not it’s pictures, it may be nice till you have to carry 5 boxes of floppy around to do the same as the small memory stick that goes inside the camera. A co-worker bought one last fall. He was looking for extra lighting for indoor shots. Told him about the Toshiba and now he thinks it’s the same focus problem. After seeing some of the Olympus and its pictures, I believe his mother now has the new Sony. The Nikon 900 series or Olympus C2-3000 series are some of the best. I have the Olympus 2000; I liked some of it features better and its closer to a real 35 camera. Here is a good web site. http://www.steves-digicams.com
I have had four digital cameras, two of which I had to return for poor performance - Kodak and Toshiba. Kodak had in the past a problem with the blue CCD, very blurry. Kodak also looks like little oil painted dots for skin tone. The Toshiba cannot focus in dim light and the manual states this. I sent it back when my wife was reading a newspaper with all the lights on and the Toshiba could not focus. I have seen too many bad pictures from the Sony camera. The floppy is what sells this camera not it’s pictures, it may be nice till you have to carry 5 boxes of floppy around to do the same as the small memory stick that goes inside the camera. A co-worker bought one last fall. He was looking for extra lighting for indoor shots. Told him about the Toshiba and now he thinks it’s the same focus problem. After seeing some of the Olympus and its pictures, I believe his mother now has the new Sony. The Nikon 900 series or Olympus C2-3000 series are some of the best. I have the Olympus 2000; I liked some of it features better and its closer to a real 35 camera. Here is a good web site. http://www.steves-digicams.com
HP C200
I use a HP C200 and am very happy with it. Check my photos here on HOW or at Photopoint.com password is Ka5Hzv@yahoo.com The camera sells for about $300.00 and is extremely easy on batteries. It's hard to believe how many pictures you can take with one set of alk. bateries... forget digital zooms. It's just like enlarging the pix once they are in your computer..
I use a HP C200 and am very happy with it. Check my photos here on HOW or at Photopoint.com password is Ka5Hzv@yahoo.com The camera sells for about $300.00 and is extremely easy on batteries. It's hard to believe how many pictures you can take with one set of alk. bateries... forget digital zooms. It's just like enlarging the pix once they are in your computer..
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