That's right, just 6 weeks to get ready and plan for your boat project. I thought I would ask what boat projects are being done this spring for a better sailing season. I don't care if it is a repair or upgrade, what are you doing? Sometimes the little things are more creative than the big things. For those on the hard, I wish you fair winds and SPRING! r.w.landau
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david lewis
Hey RW - Projects
1. refinish teak cockpit table, new one is 350 bucks, so I am sanding the old one, and I intend to bond a sheet of formica on the top where the wood has started to rot in one corner. I think it must be a teak veneered sheet of plywood with solid teak all around the edges. what do you recommend for a finish? and don't tell me varnish!!! 2. Just ordered an asymetrical cruising spinaker kit from sailrite, I'll be building that in the next three weeks. 3. Oredered several yards of blue sunbrella and some permalock fasteners for the following: a. sailcover for my dinghy b. pedestal cover for my cockpit so i can protect that table I am refinishing. dave
1. refinish teak cockpit table, new one is 350 bucks, so I am sanding the old one, and I intend to bond a sheet of formica on the top where the wood has started to rot in one corner. I think it must be a teak veneered sheet of plywood with solid teak all around the edges. what do you recommend for a finish? and don't tell me varnish!!! 2. Just ordered an asymetrical cruising spinaker kit from sailrite, I'll be building that in the next three weeks. 3. Oredered several yards of blue sunbrella and some permalock fasteners for the following: a. sailcover for my dinghy b. pedestal cover for my cockpit so i can protect that table I am refinishing. dave
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Brian Pickton of BeneteauOwners.net
Try this Dave
Feb.12,2001 Hi Dave, Two suggestions for you to think about if you haven't considered these already: (1) eliminate the wood rot with GitRot, or some other penetrating epoxy to eliminate the problem continuing under the formica. If the wood has not literally fallen away you might be able to eliminate the formica as well. (2) Try "Bristol Finish" acrylic urethane. It is formulated to look like varnish but has a much higher UV protection factor, a high gloss finish and is much longer lasting - at least a year between recoats and even longer if the table is kept covered when not in use . When we built our cockpit table while we were up the Rio Pedregal in Panama we used a wood very similar to mahogney in appearance ($2.70 for a board 1 1/4 inches thick, 12 feet long, 14 inches wide. That's $2.70 a board, not a board foot.) We found the different wood was a nice relief from teak. I epoxied it and then sanded and varnished and that combination has held up remarkably well so far. On the other hand my solid oak outboard motor mount is rotting badly and it's replacement is my next woodworking project for the boat. If I could get some starboard in a 1 inch thickness down here I might consider building it with that. Fair winds, Brian Pickton of BeneteauOwners.net, aboard The Legend, Rodney Bay St. Lucia
Feb.12,2001 Hi Dave, Two suggestions for you to think about if you haven't considered these already: (1) eliminate the wood rot with GitRot, or some other penetrating epoxy to eliminate the problem continuing under the formica. If the wood has not literally fallen away you might be able to eliminate the formica as well. (2) Try "Bristol Finish" acrylic urethane. It is formulated to look like varnish but has a much higher UV protection factor, a high gloss finish and is much longer lasting - at least a year between recoats and even longer if the table is kept covered when not in use . When we built our cockpit table while we were up the Rio Pedregal in Panama we used a wood very similar to mahogney in appearance ($2.70 for a board 1 1/4 inches thick, 12 feet long, 14 inches wide. That's $2.70 a board, not a board foot.) We found the different wood was a nice relief from teak. I epoxied it and then sanded and varnished and that combination has held up remarkably well so far. On the other hand my solid oak outboard motor mount is rotting badly and it's replacement is my next woodworking project for the boat. If I could get some starboard in a 1 inch thickness down here I might consider building it with that. Fair winds, Brian Pickton of BeneteauOwners.net, aboard The Legend, Rodney Bay St. Lucia
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Ed Schenck
So far this winter I have . . . .
painted four locker covers including new non-skid. Put several coats of varnish on the cockpit table and the drink holder. Finished a blue helm cover for a friend, just like my black one. Installed a new Raritan head in 30 degree boat, after sweeping the snow off of the cover. Washed sail covers, bimini, and dock lines. And patched up some problem areas on the bimini. Unfortunately, that is the easy stuff. Still to do: normal bottom paint, washing, and waxing. Finish the air-conditioner. And install ten new portlights. Moral of this story? Buy a new boat!
painted four locker covers including new non-skid. Put several coats of varnish on the cockpit table and the drink holder. Finished a blue helm cover for a friend, just like my black one. Installed a new Raritan head in 30 degree boat, after sweeping the snow off of the cover. Washed sail covers, bimini, and dock lines. And patched up some problem areas on the bimini. Unfortunately, that is the easy stuff. Still to do: normal bottom paint, washing, and waxing. Finish the air-conditioner. And install ten new portlights. Moral of this story? Buy a new boat!
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Don Evans
Groundhog Means Squat Where I Live
Its a given, whether Punxatauny (sp?) P or Wiarton W sees its shadow that 8 more weeks of winter frolics are left. All my projects are on the boat, and I can't suck it up to go out under the tarps and work. This usually means a mad rush in late April to ready the boat. I plan on upgrading the house and batt wiring, and am installing a Trace 3507 moniter to better inform me about the state of the batts. Anyone else have this competitor to the e-meter? Don
Its a given, whether Punxatauny (sp?) P or Wiarton W sees its shadow that 8 more weeks of winter frolics are left. All my projects are on the boat, and I can't suck it up to go out under the tarps and work. This usually means a mad rush in late April to ready the boat. I plan on upgrading the house and batt wiring, and am installing a Trace 3507 moniter to better inform me about the state of the batts. Anyone else have this competitor to the e-meter? Don
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Rob Rich
A Bimini!
This will be our second season on our C-27, and the one item that will make everyone cooler is a bimini. The boat across the dock from me has a store bought that was relatively inexpensive and has held up very well. Should help out on those 100 degree days! Rob
This will be our second season on our C-27, and the one item that will make everyone cooler is a bimini. The boat across the dock from me has a store bought that was relatively inexpensive and has held up very well. Should help out on those 100 degree days! Rob
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Jim Cook
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You are ABSOLUTELY 100% on the 100 degree days. I can't imagine sailing down here without a bimini. My current project is rebuilding mine. Either my boom rides low when sailing or my bimini is too tall. The boom rubbed holes in the old one. I am replacing it with new Sunbrella (the waterproof backed kind) and I am inserting a clear vinyl window in the back panel so that I can see the mainsail. Get one and enjoy the summer. Jim Cook
You are ABSOLUTELY 100% on the 100 degree days. I can't imagine sailing down here without a bimini. My current project is rebuilding mine. Either my boom rides low when sailing or my bimini is too tall. The boom rubbed holes in the old one. I am replacing it with new Sunbrella (the waterproof backed kind) and I am inserting a clear vinyl window in the back panel so that I can see the mainsail. Get one and enjoy the summer. Jim Cook
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R.W.Landau
Jim Cook
A friend just put a bimini on his O'Day 272 last summer. He actually put a zipper in it so that it could be installed with the backstay going right thru the middle of it. That gave him much more area in his bimini. He mounted it to the stern pulpit(pushpit). It had three bows on top. Worked great and no extra holes in the boat. r.w.landau
A friend just put a bimini on his O'Day 272 last summer. He actually put a zipper in it so that it could be installed with the backstay going right thru the middle of it. That gave him much more area in his bimini. He mounted it to the stern pulpit(pushpit). It had three bows on top. Worked great and no extra holes in the boat. r.w.landau
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R.W.Landau
dingy
No, not a sailing dingy. I was inspired by a father/son team here, the Gast family, that has been building a 28' seaworthy sailing vessel for the last 7 years. They built a small temp shed that they put a 10 frame mould in. They laid-up their own hull. 125 gallons of isothalic polyester resin in 10 days. It is flawless! These guys are perfectionists. They have painted for 2 months, 6 days a week, on things that when all parts are reassembled, everything is built and unassembled, will not be seen. I saw their boat and was inspired to try a lay-up of my own. 8' not 28. I have my male mould built and awaiting 50 to 70 degree weather to lay it up. r.w.landau
No, not a sailing dingy. I was inspired by a father/son team here, the Gast family, that has been building a 28' seaworthy sailing vessel for the last 7 years. They built a small temp shed that they put a 10 frame mould in. They laid-up their own hull. 125 gallons of isothalic polyester resin in 10 days. It is flawless! These guys are perfectionists. They have painted for 2 months, 6 days a week, on things that when all parts are reassembled, everything is built and unassembled, will not be seen. I saw their boat and was inspired to try a lay-up of my own. 8' not 28. I have my male mould built and awaiting 50 to 70 degree weather to lay it up. r.w.landau
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Don Evans
Curious R.W.
What was their laminate schedule? How did they apply their resin? I don't think in terms of DYI using this "big production" type building technique. So I'm amazed that they tried it on such a large home-built. What surface are you laying it up against? And how do you ensure that smooth exterior gelcoat? Good for you for giving it a whirl. I'll be more than curious to hear how it goes. Best of luck with the project. Don
What was their laminate schedule? How did they apply their resin? I don't think in terms of DYI using this "big production" type building technique. So I'm amazed that they tried it on such a large home-built. What surface are you laying it up against? And how do you ensure that smooth exterior gelcoat? Good for you for giving it a whirl. I'll be more than curious to hear how it goes. Best of luck with the project. Don
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R.W.Landau
Lay-up
Don, They built 10 wood frames. Then use 1/4" luan plywood to create a skin to fiberglass over. The frames were about 3' apart so they stapled the wild strips of luan. Once they had the first layer in it didn't matter what was under it. They used a roving sewn to a matt. They also used isothalic resin not orthothalic. The difference is water porosity. Catalina was using all orthothalic for along time but changed to orthothalic inner layer and isothalic outer layer. Difference is a 15 to 25% cost increase. I do not know the number of layers of laminate but the hull just below the gunwale was 3/8"+ thick and a core from the holesaw for one of the thruhulls as 1". It was thickened in this area because of the thruhull. Once they were done, they checked for fair and filled with matt at low places then faired with a thickened polyester resin. None of the resin was waxed so the bond was good from lam to lam. They even faired with a tacky unwaxed surface. Then applied interlux system 2000 and painted. The topsides are a hunter green that is flawless. The father is a retired Westinghouse engineer and designed the lines himself from different data he had from air and submarine flow information. I built my frame the same way as theirs only I have 10 frames in 8'. Faired in luan plywood. Here is thier trick. Once you have the luan ready, you tape the whole hull with U-Haul reinforced packing tape. (2"wide). This does not stick to the polyester and is much cheaper than ...... I can not think of the tape, not kevlar....I don't remember.It's mylar! They did hear some wild cracking noise at night when the curing was taking place. Polyester shrinks. They determined that most of the shrinkage was taken up by the loose frame they had made. Don, this boat is wild. They have had the westerbeke installed for 5 years. It was brand new and has never been started and is now out of warranty! They have made their own brass throttle and shift levers and mechanism because they market stuff doesn't match their boat. They had brass opening ports made custom for their cabin thickness. The shaft log is custom bronze as is it all the thruhulls and rudder fittings. They have made many sails for their catalina 22 and bought a new sewing machine for their new sails. The son is about 38 years old and a school teacher. He has taken a year off to help his 70ish father finish the boat. r.w.landau
Don, They built 10 wood frames. Then use 1/4" luan plywood to create a skin to fiberglass over. The frames were about 3' apart so they stapled the wild strips of luan. Once they had the first layer in it didn't matter what was under it. They used a roving sewn to a matt. They also used isothalic resin not orthothalic. The difference is water porosity. Catalina was using all orthothalic for along time but changed to orthothalic inner layer and isothalic outer layer. Difference is a 15 to 25% cost increase. I do not know the number of layers of laminate but the hull just below the gunwale was 3/8"+ thick and a core from the holesaw for one of the thruhulls as 1". It was thickened in this area because of the thruhull. Once they were done, they checked for fair and filled with matt at low places then faired with a thickened polyester resin. None of the resin was waxed so the bond was good from lam to lam. They even faired with a tacky unwaxed surface. Then applied interlux system 2000 and painted. The topsides are a hunter green that is flawless. The father is a retired Westinghouse engineer and designed the lines himself from different data he had from air and submarine flow information. I built my frame the same way as theirs only I have 10 frames in 8'. Faired in luan plywood. Here is thier trick. Once you have the luan ready, you tape the whole hull with U-Haul reinforced packing tape. (2"wide). This does not stick to the polyester and is much cheaper than ...... I can not think of the tape, not kevlar....I don't remember.It's mylar! They did hear some wild cracking noise at night when the curing was taking place. Polyester shrinks. They determined that most of the shrinkage was taken up by the loose frame they had made. Don, this boat is wild. They have had the westerbeke installed for 5 years. It was brand new and has never been started and is now out of warranty! They have made their own brass throttle and shift levers and mechanism because they market stuff doesn't match their boat. They had brass opening ports made custom for their cabin thickness. The shaft log is custom bronze as is it all the thruhulls and rudder fittings. They have made many sails for their catalina 22 and bought a new sewing machine for their new sails. The son is about 38 years old and a school teacher. He has taken a year off to help his 70ish father finish the boat. r.w.landau
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Tom Ehmke
spring commissioning
Here in Ohio it's still winter, but that doesn't keep some of us from going to the boatyard to enjoy being the ONLY PERSON THERE, and to wander through the cradles, boat stands and trailers just...looking around. Of course, the significant other has the idea that we're down there doing SOMETHING. Otherwise, why would we leave our warm, cozy homes to tramp around in the snow and mud? Don't even try to explain it. Let's see, what was the topic? Oh, yeah, spring projects. With Peggy's help, I'm replacing all the hoses and vents in the waste disposal system. I now have an access port in the holding tank so that I can reach inside and install the new fittings. Have already installed a three-switch battery switch system as recommended in the WM catalog, bought a tank monitoring kit which I will install when it gets warm enough for the tape to stick,am installing a tabernacle on the cabin top to make stepping the mast easier (a million thanks to Al Guardino, a visitor to the ODO site for the pix and advice) and have installed two portlights,one to starboard above the galley area and one to port to provide cross ventilation. Also on the agenda, replacing some carpeting on the cabin sole. Oh, yeah, I plan on doing some sailing this Spring too. Let's get up and get at it!!!
Here in Ohio it's still winter, but that doesn't keep some of us from going to the boatyard to enjoy being the ONLY PERSON THERE, and to wander through the cradles, boat stands and trailers just...looking around. Of course, the significant other has the idea that we're down there doing SOMETHING. Otherwise, why would we leave our warm, cozy homes to tramp around in the snow and mud? Don't even try to explain it. Let's see, what was the topic? Oh, yeah, spring projects. With Peggy's help, I'm replacing all the hoses and vents in the waste disposal system. I now have an access port in the holding tank so that I can reach inside and install the new fittings. Have already installed a three-switch battery switch system as recommended in the WM catalog, bought a tank monitoring kit which I will install when it gets warm enough for the tape to stick,am installing a tabernacle on the cabin top to make stepping the mast easier (a million thanks to Al Guardino, a visitor to the ODO site for the pix and advice) and have installed two portlights,one to starboard above the galley area and one to port to provide cross ventilation. Also on the agenda, replacing some carpeting on the cabin sole. Oh, yeah, I plan on doing some sailing this Spring too. Let's get up and get at it!!!
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