Thank You! (Some thoughts on my ‘rookie season’)

Feb 19, 2008
472
Catalina 320 Tawas Bay Yacht Club
Well, the boat is on the hard for the winter, wrestling the winter cover on it was easier than I feared it would be. I’ve got a couple more projects I’d like to get to before it gets too cold, but basically (here in Michigan) the season is over.

After almost 30 years of sailing on boats from 11’ to 18’, in some ways this has been my rookie season. There have been a lot of “firsts,” and a big learning curve. I just wanted to thank all of the people that have answered my many, many questions. Not that I think I’m done asking, but I wanted to acknowledge the help I’ve received.

Some observations:

Under sail, the Catalina 320 handles remarkably like my Capri 18. Probably shouldn’t surprise me, same Genoa to main ratio, same keel, the shroud angle pretty similar. One difference is that at 11,000 lbs, she doesn’t seem to care where I sit.

Under power it feels very different, and I can’t quite explain why. It’s quieter in the cockpit, but there is definitely a smell below. It’s harder to hold your course under power than it is under sail. With the tiller and the outboard, the Capri was really easy - it just went where I pointed it. Big boat under power likes to wander.

Lots of things - like docking, raising the main, and carrying the sails in the bag, are just harder with size (and I haven’t bought bottom paint yet!). An 18’ boat slides into the smallest slip in the marina like a toddler putting on daddy’s shoes. Slipping an 11’9” beam in a 12‘ well is terrifying. I was glad there was no wind that day.

Ultimately, for me, the test for whether this was a good thing to do is, “do I miss the boat when I’m not on it?” And yeah, I do. A lot. I’m looking forward to another couple days of projects in November, and I’m really looking forward to launch in May.

My wife is already talking about a Traverse Bay cruise next year (we have sailed traverse bay many times and love it). I told her that’s a 400 nm round trip just to get us TO the bay, she didn’t seem deterred, “same distance as our delivery cruise this year!”

My winter goal is to take an online marine diesel maintenance course, then the ideal follow up would be a hands on Westerbeke 30B course. I doubt that I could fine one that specific, but I think my local community college offers something.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help on this forum. If your sailing season continues, I wish you fair winds. If you are stocking up firewood and hunkering down for the next few months, I wish you stew, mulled cider, warm blankets, and a great season next year.


John
 

BarryL

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May 21, 2004
1,087
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 409 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hi,

Nice write up. As you wrote there are plusses and minuses for big boat / little boat. When sailing, I definitely prefer a big boat. When working on it, I wish I stayed with the small boat :). Just wait a few years, the 320 will start to seem small!
For me. the size limit is 'can I carry the sails on and off the boat'? I can do that for my 40 boat. I can't really do that on my friend's 44 boat and I could not on the J44 I sometimes sail on.

Barry
 
Feb 19, 2008
472
Catalina 320 Tawas Bay Yacht Club
@BarryL
I really, really love sailing my Capri 18. Pure joy.

Didn’t like sleeping on it nearly as much, or the porta potty, or the 90 minutes at the boat ramp rigging it, but when my hand was on the tiller. . . Pure joy. Ultimately there were things I wanted to do that I was not comfortable doing on the Capri; sail on the Great Lakes, cross Lake Michigan, make a longer cruise. 20 miles on an 18’ boat is a damn good day, with just a bit more hull speed and a ton more luxury we did several 50 mile days this summer.

I don’t doubt that the 32 will eventually feel small, I’ve certainly heard that from enough people. At 60 years old, I’m quite convinced this is my apex boat. I‘ve already got three years worth of plans for it.

If my health holds out and things go as planned, Id like to sail this boat for 10 years, they maybe I start looking for another pocket cruiser or day sailer. I love the look of the O’Day Widgeon, never had the pleasure of sailing one, but they look sweet.

My wife keeps looking at those little campers. Maybe one of those and I could build us a couple kayaks.
Or who knows, maybe we reach 70 and the health is still good and we keep making cruising plans.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
7,373
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
It’s quieter in the cockpit, but there is definitely a smell below.
Feel your mixing elbow under full load. It should be warm but not not so hot you can't hold your hand on it for a period of time.. If overheating it's most likely carboned up and requires either cleaning or replacement.
 
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Feb 26, 2004
23,121
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
My winter goal is to take an online marine diesel maintenance course, then the ideal follow up would be a hands on Westerbeke 30B course. I doubt that I could fine one that specific, but I think my local community college offers something.
The ONLY diesel course worth anything is one about the engine in your boat.
Unless you're planning on an engine rebuild, and 99% of us have never needed to go there, then read Calder's Diesel book or his Boatowners, and then inspect your engine and download the manual with parts diagram. Oil changes, filter equivalents, transmission and coolant, burping your engine and bleeding. What else?
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,282
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
@BarryL
I really, really love sailing my Capri 18. Pure joy.

Didn’t like sleeping on it nearly as much, or the porta potty, or the 90 minutes at the boat ramp rigging it, but when my hand was on the tiller. . . Pure joy. Ultimately there were things I wanted to do that I was not comfortable doing on the Capri; sail on the Great Lakes, cross Lake Michigan, make a longer cruise. 20 miles on an 18’ boat is a damn good day, with just a bit more hull speed and a ton more luxury we did several 50 mile days this summer.

I don’t doubt that the 32 will eventually feel small, I’ve certainly heard that from enough people. At 60 years old, I’m quite convinced this is my apex boat. I‘ve already got three years worth of plans for it.

If my health holds out and things go as planned, Id like to sail this boat for 10 years, they maybe I start looking for another pocket cruiser or day sailer. I love the look of the O’Day Widgeon, never had the pleasure of sailing one, but they look sweet.

My wife keeps looking at those little campers. Maybe one of those and I could build us a couple kayaks.
Or who knows, maybe we reach 70 and the health is still good and we keep making cruising plans.
As you are learning, sailing little boats is about sailing, sailing big boats is about systems management. Both have their place. I miss sailing my Tanzer 22, which I sold 25 years ago, however, I love cruising on my Sabre 362.

If you take care of your body, there is no reason you can't be sailing and cruising past 70, we call it Geezer Cruising. Don't be swayed by all the young YouTubers out there cruising, there are plenty of geezers out there too. And the interest in cruising past 70 seems high. A panel discussion at the Annapolis Boat Show last month had a full house, with about 50+ geezers and future geezers asking questions.

Need some inspiration, read Deborah Hammet's Young Salt at Sixty (Amazon Link).
 
Feb 19, 2008
472
Catalina 320 Tawas Bay Yacht Club
@dlochner
I understand that 60 is not old. I’ve been trying to outrun my family history for some time now. In my 30‘s and again in my 50‘s I was seeing a preventative cardiologist. . . Diet, exercise, statins. I had a really good stress test 8 months before my heart attack.

That’s the reason my wife wants to upgrade the VHF to one of the ones with that red button that makes the Mayday call and knows your location.

Every time I don’t feel like exercising I remind myself that there are very active 70 year olds, and there are housebound 70 year olds, and to a certain extent, that’s a choice that I get to make today.