Tender?

Dec 15, 2006
139
We are planning some coastal cruising this summer, and we are not
comfortable doing so without some kind of a dinghy/tender of some
sort. Would appreciate what the rest of you out there are using for
getting ashore etc. What about a kayak?

Larry Bissell
"Kemanalea"
hull 1493
SF Bay area
 
Jul 6, 2007
106
In my opinion Kayaks are good if all you are going to
do is getting ashore with a back pack, but once you
start ferrying stuff around (Jerry cans, lengths of
rope, etc), they stop being practical.
 
Oct 31, 2019
562
Hi
I'm using a 10 foot inflatable with a 3 hp outboard. I'm cruising mostly the Florida Keys; here the water is shallow and many places can be reached only with a dinghy. Some of the important things about the inflatable are self bailing and being able to store on deck when under way. They are, however, a pain in the neck- they don't tow well and they will leak- some day.
There are some hard dinghies out there- but beware: they tow very good, but if you're in the water and try to get in- good luck! They will flip over if you try to get it (assuming you have an outboard)
Wilhelm, V-257

Roger Fairest rogerefairest@... wrote: In my opinion Kayaks are good if all you are going to
do is getting ashore with a back pack, but once you
start ferrying stuff around (Jerry cans, lengths of
rope, etc), they stop being practical.
 
Oct 30, 2019
60
I concur with Roger - I have cruised at times with a kayak and there are certainly tradeoffs...

Pros:
Virtually indestructible
Lightweight
Fun to explore anchorages once the hook is down
Easy to stow - I just lashed mine to the stanchions for short hops, and stuffed it up into the V-berth for longer hops or when conditions were bad
No dealing with an outboard and the associated gas

Cons:
Only good for a singlehander - if you are two or more forget the kayak right here...
Can't carry much in the way of groceries, etc - weight and volume are limited
Slow if you're anchored far out
Difficult to enter and exit from your boat, compared to an inflatable or rigid dinghy
Not the best emergency lifeboat

I guess it depends on where you're going and how often you'll have the chance to get alongside to top up water, fuel, provisions, etc. I remember hauling many 6 gal jugs of water by dinghy in the Bahamas, and that certainly wouldn't have worked in a kayak!

Bill
#1390
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
Larry,
I use a small hard dinghy (pram) that fits upside down on the foredeck
when making longer passages, and tows when on short hops. I find it
knocks about half a knot off my speed when towing. When on the foredeck
it's not in the way as I use a furler for the jib. It's also useful to
sit on when reefing.
It takes about 5 minutes to launch and retrieve using the spinaker
halyard.

Peter
#1331 'SIn Tacha'
 
Jan 28, 2001
694
Judy and I took a couple of the Stearns inflatable kayaks with us to Mexico and they were a great deal of fun. I do concur with Bill and Roger also. Can't do much in the way of provisions with them. Another thing that you MUST! consider with any inflatable or dinghy powered by oars or paddle is that if the wind comes up you may be blown out to sea. Carry appropriate stuff with you. For the more serious stuff we used an inflatable dinghy with a 3.5 Nissan outboard. Bombard was our choice as we got a "good deal" on a last years model from West Marine. About 9.5ft and with an inflatable floor. For longer trips we carried it in its bag on the cabin top for shorter trips we towed it. Use a bridle attached to the stern and led over the bow. More than one cruising boat has arrived at its destination to find itself towing a dinghy painter attached to a dinghy bow handle with no dinghy. We wouldn't go with a Bombard again. I really liked the inflatable floor but it was a PVC boat and just didn't hold up. We used 303 protectant on it and also had a sunbrella cover for the tubes. Just didn't do it. Sent it back to West Marine when the floor started coming off of it. They fixed it it and sent it back. They didn't bother to fix where the tubes were seperating from the transom. Zodiac now owns Bombard and as I recall they also make the West Marine dinghys. Of course the way things are doing now everything is probably made in China.
My nest dinghy will be an Achilles. They still use Hypalon and also have the inflatable floor. Available from Defender in various sizes. There is a 10.5 ft one on Ebay now. I'd go one size down. We had friends with the smallest one and it just wasn't quite big enough. 9.5 feet allowed us to inflate it on the foredeck. We used a 2 cycle outboard and parts were hard to get in Mexico. I'll probably go with a 5 or 6 hp 4 stroke next time. After a long hard row against the wind after running out of gas I always carried a liter of fuel in a plastic drink bottle. I used it more than once! Just one last comment. Never tow it with the outboard on it. and never leave it tied to the boat with the outboard on it. It can capsize while being towed and a strong wind can turn it over while tied to the boat. Been there, saw it happen and had to take the motor apart twice because of it. Walt
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: CaptSail@...: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:10:44 -0500Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Tender?

I concur with Roger - I have cruised at times with a kayak and there are certainly tradeoffs...Pros:Virtually indestructibleLightweightFun to explore anchorages once the hook is downEasy to stow - I just lashed mine to the stanchions for short hops, and stuffed it up into the V-berth for longer hops or when conditions were badNo dealing with an outboard and the associated gasCons:Only good for a singlehander - if you are two or more forget the kayak right here...Can't carry much in the way of groceries, etc - weight and volume are limitedSlow if you're anchored far outDifficult to enter and exit from your boat, compared to an inflatable or rigid dinghyNot the best emergency lifeboatI guess it depends on where you're going and how often you'll have the chance to get alongside to top up water, fuel, provisions, etc. I remember hauling many 6 gal jugs of water by dinghy in the Bahamas, and that certainly wouldn't have worked in a kayak!Bill #1390