My 1984 O'Day 26 swing keel line is jammed. I suspect the rope to wire splice is frayed in the tube. The keel can be pulled down manually underwater @the keel is free in the trunk. The line on deck remains very difficult to pull up the keel. How do I check\replace the wire to rope line?
swing keel rope to cable replacement
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Buy a new line (all rope, no wire) and use the old line to pull it up thru the hose. Our 26 has no issues with the cb but I'm going to dive under this weekend to inspect it.
Rudy at D&R can hook you up with the right stuff:
http://www.drmarine.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DR80-01
Rudy at D&R can hook you up with the right stuff:
http://www.drmarine.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DR80-01
I would tie a strong twine to the end of the pendant line in the cockpit and pull the old pendant line out through the keel slot while pulling the tag line in. You don't even need to cut the tag line. You can pull enough of it through so that you can work on it inside the cockpit.
The reason why I would use a tag line on the O'Day 26 is because there is a single sheave in a small recess up inside the keel slot where the pendant line exits the pipe and it has to go through this sheave.
You'll want to make sure that the new pendant line can get through this sheave without hanging up.
Also, I suggest using a whipping twine to whip the ends of both the old pendant line and the new one. This will give you a nice secure attachment point for you tag lines. You can then use a large darning needle and push it through the whipping in order to tie the tag line to the Pendant line. When you have your tag line attached to the pendant line you can tape over it with one wrap of masking tape to center the tag line to the pendant line.
I usually use the sailor's palm from my sail repair kit to push the needle through tough material, but a pair of pliers will work just as well.
More Sheave info?
:dance: Can you say more about the size of the sheave? How do you get to it? Is it designed for the cable that connects to the swing keel or does the pendant line pass over the sheave?
Two family sailors think there may be barnacles (or zebra muscles in my fresh water on the St Lawrence) in the tube. I am inclined to attach a smaller diameter Kevlar line to the pendant in the cockpit and pull everything thru to the swing keel for the rest of the season -- but the size of the sheave could be a problem.
Please advise-- thanks
:dance: Can you say more about the size of the sheave? How do you get to it? Is it designed for the cable that connects to the swing keel or does the pendant line pass over the sheave?
Two family sailors think there may be barnacles (or zebra muscles in my fresh water on the St Lawrence) in the tube. I am inclined to attach a smaller diameter Kevlar line to the pendant in the cockpit and pull everything thru to the swing keel for the rest of the season -- but the size of the sheave could be a problem.
Please advise-- thanks
Judging from the Schaeffer single sheaves on my boat I can only guess that the sheave pulley is 1.5" X 1/2" and it's made for braid line.
I've seen this sheave/U bolt assembly close up at D&R Marine in Assonet Ma. It resembles a bow eye with a sheave attached to it. This sheave assembly was inserted into the bottom of the keel with a long tool. Then a small stainless steel backing plate with two nuts were installed from inside the cabin under the sole plate.
My pendant line is braid with an eye splice for a long shackle. The shackle pin connects to a 1/4" hole in the trailing edge of my Centerboard. My friend Ray has this same set up on his 1986 O'Day 26.
The sheave assembly fits into a small pocket way up in the keel slot. My 222 has a removable sole plate board in the cabin to gain access to the pocket where the pendant line pipe is connected and it resembles a hump which is actually the outside of the molded fiberglass pocket. You can see the strap and two nuts on top of the hump.
I can only guess that when they installed this sheave assembly at he O'Day factory, they may have run a strong twine into the pendant line pipe, then inserted the tag line into the sheave and used a long tool to get it up into the pocket after caulking the welded strap on the U bolt.
The sheave is kind of hard to see without a flashlight but you may be able to apply enough pressure on the pulley with the twine in order to turn it and make sure that it isn't broken.
One of the guys on this forum removed the sheave assembly on his O'Day 26 a few years ago and reinserted back in. His name is Ed K. and he could probably tell you more about it than I can.
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Dick,
If your pendant line is made up of wire and braid line, I would change that configuration to all braid with an eye splice for a shackle. The pdf that I have attached with the pictures shows that the hole for the shackle pin is 52" from the top of Ray's centerboard which is probably in the same area as the existing hole in your board.
I've never heard of the O'Day 26 having a wire/braid centerboard pendant line but I guess that anything is possible. As long as there is a small pocket up in the keel slot for the sheave U bolt assembly, there should be room for the shackle also.
If you need to change it over to a shackle, it is advisable to drill a larger hole and fill it in with epoxy and filler, and then drill a small hole in the center of the epoxy for the shackle pin which would be about 1/4".
If your pendant line is made up of wire and braid line, I would change that configuration to all braid with an eye splice for a shackle. The pdf that I have attached with the pictures shows that the hole for the shackle pin is 52" from the top of Ray's centerboard which is probably in the same area as the existing hole in your board.
I've never heard of the O'Day 26 having a wire/braid centerboard pendant line but I guess that anything is possible. As long as there is a small pocket up in the keel slot for the sheave U bolt assembly, there should be room for the shackle also.
If you need to change it over to a shackle, it is advisable to drill a larger hole and fill it in with epoxy and filler, and then drill a small hole in the center of the epoxy for the shackle pin which would be about 1/4".
26 C/B Pendant Line
I have an O'Day 26 (which is for sale).
I have had the pendant line out and the centerboard out. The size of sheave described by Trinkka is probably correct. I never recorded the measurement.
The instructions given on attaching a sister line are correct.
My line was all cord from the get go. My boat never had the wire line combo. The wire line combo was standard on earlier O'Day 25's. Maybe the plant ran out of 26 lines and put in the wire combo used in the earlier boats. Maybe it was just to use up old inventory.
The turning block is high up and I would not suspect muscles but yes it could be critters or garbage causing issues. And I believe that the block would be above the water line, it is that high.
Remember that the 26 keel is six or more inches deeper than the 25.
Using wire on the 26 block may have cut into the block and is causing a binding stopage?
If you replace, use all line. I would recommend replacing line before removing center board to examine the block. Removing center board requires getting the boat up high to drop it. PITA.
Ed K
Addenda:
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave
safely in a well preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...
...holy shit what a ride!" War Room this site.
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I have an O'Day 26 (which is for sale).
I have had the pendant line out and the centerboard out. The size of sheave described by Trinkka is probably correct. I never recorded the measurement.
The instructions given on attaching a sister line are correct.
My line was all cord from the get go. My boat never had the wire line combo. The wire line combo was standard on earlier O'Day 25's. Maybe the plant ran out of 26 lines and put in the wire combo used in the earlier boats. Maybe it was just to use up old inventory.
The turning block is high up and I would not suspect muscles but yes it could be critters or garbage causing issues. And I believe that the block would be above the water line, it is that high.
Remember that the 26 keel is six or more inches deeper than the 25.
Using wire on the 26 block may have cut into the block and is causing a binding stopage?
If you replace, use all line. I would recommend replacing line before removing center board to examine the block. Removing center board requires getting the boat up high to drop it. PITA.
Ed K
Addenda:
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave
safely in a well preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...
...holy shit what a ride!" War Room this site.
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