Suggestions: Solar Panel for H-26

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Apr 10, 2010
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Hunter 26 Boca Chica, Rep. of Panama
I added a Lowrance chart/depth system to the boat and now I don't have enough juice to crank the 9.8 Nissan, except after running the motor for some time.

I have a small flexible solar unit that came with the boat when I bought it 2 yrs ago. It sits on one of the stern corner seats.

I want something that is functional, and mounts with out too much rigging required.

I keep the bimini up most of the time, but I'm not certain I want to fix a solar unit on top of it.

What's your suggestion?
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
hey Chiriqui
I doubt the chart/depth is causing the problem. They usually draw less than an amp. That would mean 12 Amp-Hours (AH) after running it for 12 hours, probably less. Determining how much production you need is all about knowing how much you use. The battery bank size just lets you delay recharging.
There is a spreadsheet in the "resources-downloads" section that calculates energy usage. Fill it out and you will have a better idea of what kind of load your solar panel is going to need to support. I'm thinking your outboard is not contributing much to your production of electricity. Most only produce an amp or two.
 

BrianW

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Jan 7, 2005
843
Hunter 26 Guntersville Lake, (AL)
Mast Crutch-Mounted Solar Panel

The trickle-charging solar panel on my H26 has an easily removable mount on the top of the mast crutch. The previous owner mounted the solar panel on a 1-ft X 1-ft. aluminum plate. This plate is welded at a 45 degree angle (from horizontal) onto an 8" long section of aluminum pipe with a set screw (bolt) midway along the length of the pipe. The 45 degree angle is actually cut onto the pipe. The inside diameter of the 8" long pipe is slightly larger that the outside diameter of the mast crutch, so it slides right onto the top of the mast crutch, just above the mast support bracket. The pipe's set bolt has a "Tee" handle for easy tightening and loosening so that the solar panel can be removed and stowed when I need to use the mast crutch for its intended purpose. I can also rotate the solar panel when needed for the most efficient orientation with the sun. In my slip, I simply keep it facing south. BrianW
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Not enough information was given to determine what could be your cause.

Essentially you have a trickle charger on the motor when it is running and you advised it will not crank unless you run the engine for some time which to recharge the battery.

How old is the battery? They do have a shelf life and need replacement. Check the battery for load to see what type of condition it is in.

Another item is the mast light which serves for the steaming light and anchor light. That switch is an on-off-on switch. Some fail to forget to leave that in the middle position for off. I have replaced that switch on occassion when it went bad for my customer's boats.

Finnally, what else do you run off that battery? If you are running alot, then the battery will drain alot quicker than what iis being replaced by the engine.

Finally, did you inspect the battery for fluid levels?

I would check these suggestions out first before preceeding in other directions.

crazy Dave
 
Apr 10, 2010
159
Hunter 26 Boca Chica, Rep. of Panama
All very good advice. Could be that I'm leaving that mast light on and I'll check the battery water levels. I would have thought though that it's a sealed battery, we'll see.

The batteries look right of the retail shelf but looks can be deceiving

thanks everyone
 
Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Chiriqui - I suggest you read my post about the small but sufficient panel I installed on my H27. My setup is pretty similar to yours. I have a 8hp Nissan / Tohatsu engine and a chart plotter + depth unit, and no shore power hookup.

I was having trouble keeping my batteries charged up with just charging off the engine (2-3 times a season when they were so low they would hardly start the engine, I would take the batteries and charge them with a regular car battery charger). Replacing all my lights with LEDs helped, but I still had to charge the batteries from a portable charger once or twice a season.

After replacing my batteries and installing a new panel and charge controller this spring, my batteries have never dropped below 75% SOC (state of charge), even on a 4 day cruise. I know with complete confidence now that when I get to my boat the batteries are always fully charged.

http://sailingit.com/blog/boat-projects/solar-panel-mounting-and-installation

Additionally, if your leaving the mast light on, and it's not a LED light, that can easily drain a single battery by itself over night if it wasn't fully charged to begin with. A typical mast light like you probably have draws roughly 0.8 amps, if left on for 12 hours that's roughly 10ah alone.

If your battery is a typical group 27 rated around 70ah, and you don't have a charger that has a float stage, you are probably never achieving over 80% SOC which means your battery only has about 56ah of actual gross capacity, and 28ah of usable capacity (to maintain 50% SOC or higher) .

Throw in the chart plotter and sounder (12 hours x 1a = 12ah), plus the anchor light (12 hours x 0.8a = 10ah) and you are already at 22ah of use, or 60% SOC.

Then try and run 2-3 (non LED) cabin lights through the night (3 hours x 1.4a each = 4.2ah each x 2-3 lights = 8.4ah to 12.6ah total) and you are now between 30ah and 35ah, which will pull the battery down to between 46% and 38% SOC depending on cabin light usage. None of this takes into account the peukert effect which will likely leave the battery even lower than calculated here.

If you instead started off with a full battery that was topped off with a good solar charger and the exact same usage, you would end up with a remaining charge of 69% SOC before cabin lights, or 57% to 50% SOC after cabin light usage.

Changing nothing but ensuring your batteries start off full will give you an extra 12% of battery capacity after your first day on the water. If that is done through solar, you will actually do even better as the panel (depending on size of course) will be able to replenish much of that usage of the plotter / sounder during the day. Adding LED lighting will also make a huge difference.
 
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