suggestions for varnish

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Aug 11, 2011
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catalina 22 Islamorada
Any suggestions for a very high durability gloss varnish for my new rudder handle I just made?

Not that I haven't used my fair share of varnishes but just looking for any suggestions on something really durable only need like a stupid pint since it's just the handle.

Thanks
 

Bilbo

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Aug 29, 2005
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Catalina 22 Ohio
I can't help you on your choice of varnish for your rudder handle but ...
I keep my tiller and my rudder inside the cabin when I'm not on the boat and inside the house for the winter months.
I've varnished my tiller only once about 5 years ago.
 
Dec 23, 2008
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Catalina 22 Central Penna.
Additional coats every year!

Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum in St Michael, Md. restores wooden boats, their paint shop recommends Flagship Vanish, 16 coats!
 

Ken

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Jun 1, 2004
1,182
Catalina 22 P. P. Y. C.
Varnish

Interlux Schooner is my varnish of choice these days. It's thicker than most other varnishes I've used in the past.
 

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Aug 11, 2011
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catalina 22 Islamorada
that's a beautiful boat.

I've always wanted to build one of the small sailing dingy's no real reason or purpose for myself just think it would be fun to build.
 
Aug 11, 2011
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catalina 22 Islamorada
thanks for the suggestions guys

Got my new rudder handle made and ready to varnish ordered the varnish and today finished up my screen door for the companion hatch.
 

Ken

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 22 P. P. Y. C.
Thanks, that's four coats of the Schooner.
 
Dec 5, 2011
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Catalina Catalina 22 13632 Phenix City
thanks for the suggestions guys

Got my new rudder handle made and ready to varnish ordered the varnish and today finished up my screen door for the companion hatch.

Pictures please!! I laminated a new tiller handle out of Mahogany and Red Oak this year and used about 7 coats of Cetol on it since that's what I had on hand. I'm interested in seeing your screen door...
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
For a long lasting varnish job on a tiller, I would suggest:
1. 10-12 coats of an oil based varnish such as Interlux "Schooner" - oil based varnishes are more flexible and less prone to 'crack'.
2. Let dry/cure in the hot sun for about 3-4 months, then .....
3. 2-3 coats of a Urethane based high gloss varnish over that
4. Make a sleeve cover of Sunbrella, etc. to cover and protect the tiller from the sun's UV.

5. (option after #4) spray on then hand-rub and 'power-buff', etc. several coats of automotive 'clear coat' - for a hard durable 'top coat'. You can get 'clear coat' in most automotive supply stores in spray cans. Note- previous coats MUST be fully cured/dried (months) before applying automotive 'clear coat'. Spray on the clear coat 'thick' but with no runs, sags, etc.

That should lessen any recoating/revarnishing hassles for many many years.
 
Jan 13, 2013
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Catalina 22 Lake Champlain
My home made stick is four laminations of Brazilian Cherry, a/k/a "Jabota" w/ 4 extremely "thin" coats of "Helmsman" spar varnish.

After one full season, a sanding with '000' steel wool and a single coat of the same varnish will be more than adequate. And yes - a pint will be more than enough:)
 

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catalina 22 Islamorada
well I didn't go fancy with lamination but I have a barn full of black walnut that is all 3" thick so I cut and carved my handle. If I don't like it I'm out nothing besides some time.

Went off the beaten path on mine measured out where I hold it every time I go out and never hold my old one toward the end so I shortened my new one by approx. 12" giving me a decent amount of extra space in the cockpit.

Gonna give it a shot this summer and see how it goes. I'll like it or not if I do I've got enough walnut to make about 200 more if things go bad :)

I'll maybe post a pic or two when I get it done but it's to cold now to varnish have to wait for some warmer weather.
 
Jan 13, 2013
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Catalina 22 Lake Champlain
If you drop anything on, 30 coast of varnish - or 3 - you've penetrated the barrier and have "lost" any real sealing in that one spot.

The depth of shine with 30 coats is undeniably superior to 3 alone but not 10 times better ;)
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
There's a reason the pro's do ten coats. The build coats for the obvious reasons of shine and depth, but any more will probably just compound the effort getting it all back off if you need to strip it. But the idea with ten is you lose a coat during a year from elements, and then ideally two more coats will go when you sand it to freshen up the varnish yearly at three coats to get it back to the ten number. (Oh yeah, you get to do this every year).
At the end of your maintenance coats, fill a small two ounce bottle or so with the varnish, and a Q-Tip and small piece of 220 sandpaper rubberbanded to the jar. When you have those dings, spot fix it THEN. There's a hole in the pool, and it needs to be fixed now!. If water gets under it, it's all coming back off. THEN, you have to use wet or dry sandpaper, because aluminum oxide paper will not work well sanding through tears.

Yes, three coats is a MONUMENTAL waste of time. Don't even bother.
30 coats you need therapy.
And after fifteen, again, a waste of time and varnish.

(I do this kind of work on some very high end boats, for an awful lot of money. Repeat customers albeit)..
 
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