Suggestion Replacement for Weems and Plath Endurance Cabin Clock

Jun 13, 2004
60
Hunter 306 Bluewater Bay Marina (Niceville, FL)
Hope this is a problem others may have/had and suggestions/recommendations are forthcoming. Thanks for any attention given. Problem: when I got my 2003 Hunter 306 in 2007 (I am 3rd owner, but it was a very like-new boat), I received an offer for 20% of Weems and Plath thingies. (I did buy nav items (plotters, a case, etc.) and these were a fair buy. I also bought chrome Endurance 085 (the small ones, 85cm diameter) cabin instruments in a set because I thought that would be cool-looking interior cabin decor...and possibly useful on occasion. Yeah, I know I bought about the bottom of the line - and I'm sort of a silver or chrome type guy and not a brass guy, having polished brass enough in the Army! - so here I am with Endurance 085 Barometer (works OK or seems to - need to tap it a bit, but I expect that) and a 'Comfort Indicator' (that's a split thermo/humidity indicator - also works OK), and a Clock that is really, truly lousy! The clock is what I really have grief with. ALL these items were over -priced (even with the 20% discount they gave me!) and they are made in China and chrome on top of plastic. They look OK after 7 years, but the clock has never worked well. I complained to them in the first year that the clock - battery operated quartz - uses an uncommon N-sized battery. This is the same 1.5 DC voltage as a AA battery, but the N battery is half the length. The clock body (small about 4 inches across) COULD have accommodated a cheap Michael's-type hobby clock movement with a AA cell, but the d**ned item has this movement that only takes a N cell. That battery is NOT readily available at drugstores, Wallmartski, or grocery stores, but IS at Radio Shack (if you still have one of those nearby) but costs about 5 bucks per battery! Amazon does have them, but that is inconvenient, if not lower-priced. The problem is that the N-cell battery only keeps the clock running for about a month. Then you have to replace it! And it always ran noticeably slow! I complained to W&P, but they had no sympathy nor solution. I have lived with it until about a month or so ago when I saw that my clock had the hour hand swingin' free! It had come loose. So I contacted W&P and they allowed me to send it in....nearly a month later they informed me they'd fix it under warranty. (The Weems and Plath literature says the clock and the movement have a lifetime warranty.) I just got it back, and they also included a battery with it. Apparently the clock was sent to Conant Custom Brass, a division of W&P, and their return invoice (no cost) last week said, 'Min Hand is los. Clock is not keeping good time. Replaced mvmt. tested. keep good time.' I put in the battery and it started up. I was moderately happy. But today, going to put it back on the mount in the boat, I noticed that, though I set it to the time on Saturday - about 1 PM - when I went to the boat today (a day later, Sunday), the clock said 2 PM when it was about 3:17! Still broken. Still slow. Does anyone have suggestions for a nice small clock to stick in the boat cabin? I have just spent a wasted afternoon trying to search for 4-inch (or 5-inch) wall mounted clocks (battery quartz) or suitable digital one (date and time and whatever is OK) but do not see anything in round small cocks that fit or would look good. I really will not pay hundreds for a brass ship's instrument. I'm just a day-sailor and inland cruiser and who would like to be able to see the time in the cabin wall. Any one with had similar issues and can recommend a wall clock? Certainly don't want to buy W&P.
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,950
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Hi Dennis, I feel your pain. However, in 1999 I was gifted with a set of Weems & Plath clock and barometer; the black plastic version. The clock uses one AA battery and to this day both operate accurately. Perhaps it is time for an upgrade?
 
May 17, 2004
5,896
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
The movement on our W&P clock started giving us trouble before the Annapolis Boat Show last fall. We dropped off the clock at the W&P tent on our way into the show, and picked it up with a new movement on the way out, for no cost. Seemed to work fine for the rest of the year (although it's in storage with battery removed now for the winter, so I can't speak for the long term results).
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,137
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I have just spent a wasted afternoon trying to search for
Might help us to help yuou if you mention where you've looked. We have an N battery clock that's worked flawlessly for years and years, but that don't help you any now, does it?!? :) It's, of course, brass, but bottom of the line, too, don't recall the make.

Have you considered going to a watchmaker and getting just the guts replaced?

Good luck.
 
May 27, 2004
2,059
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
Glad W&P fixed your problem. Sadly, the works for most 'electronic' clocks are cheaply made in China, Japan or Korea. I can't get squat out fo the mfg on mine.
 
Feb 1, 2014
82
Watkins 27 North East, MD
IMHO, it's the cheezy movement! The Commodore purchased a beautiful mahogany and brass clock for the boat.. Wouldn't keep time worth a tinker's d#@n.. Took it home and set it, placed it on desk and it kept time to within a few seconds per day. Back on the boat and it went all wonky again!
Apparently, the movement/s will not tolerate movement of the boat; even at the dock. Sad that ya haft a spend huge $$ on a *real* chronometer. Perhaps not as "shippy"; but a cheap digital will keep time aboard. ;)
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
We were given a Seth Thomas 4 " Brass clock in 1987 as a boat warming gift....the face of the clock is 4 inches with very heavy glass and brass.(the front is beveled brass w/glass face....the back of the clock is 5 to 6 inches in diameter (i.e. the part that is flush with the wall).. Anyway, this clock has had it's batteries, (2) (AAA) replaced maybe 4 times since 1986...there is no chime, but there is a second hand that never stops....I'm thinking it might have been 2011 when I last changed the batteries.....It is beautiful and like the ever-ready bunny, just keeps on kicking and ticking....I'd buy it again in a minutes...but I don't know if Seth Thomas clocks are still being manufactured....Go to google and check it out...Good Luck...ps. it looks like the clock above except says Seth Thomas.
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
Okay, I went to google and typed in the following exactly...Seth Thomas brass wall clock for boat
It took me to a site that has my exact clock for sale and a web site with lots of other boat clocks
It is the only one exactly like mine....$ 75.00. being sold by a company called Dusty Miller Antiques, Seasprite II,
nautical clock 1023 sold originally in the 1980's ...uses 1 AA battery...is in excellent condition, working order..
Dusty Miller shop is in Middlebury, Indiana....6.25 inches in diameter...3 inches deep; weighs 2.5 pounds. held on a wooden
bulkhead by 3 brass screws....Their phone number is not listed...you may need to use a telephone operator....Patrick in Wichita Let me know what happens
 
Sep 15, 2013
708
Catalina 270 Baltimore
I am sorry you had a problem with W&P. I have a W&P clock in my main cabin. It came with the boat and could have been as old as 15 years. I noticed it kept poor time. I took it down to their office Eastport and they fixed it for free in about a week. No receipt or documentation needed. It continues to work fine.