Success - Repower from Renault to Yanmar 2GM

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Sep 26, 2008
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Hunter 27 Port Washington
This afternoon I was successful in completing the re-power of my H27 (see picture of engine). I originally removed the Renault engine last fall, purchased a Yanmar 2GM, reworked the mounts, etc and installed the Yanmar last month. Then came the replacement of the fuel feed pump which arrived via UPS on Friday. Installed that today, went through the bleeding process all the way to the injectors....and finally was treated with the beautiful sound of the 2GM engine running. Such a nice sound to hear after all that was involved with the re-power.

Of course the end result came with many frustrations and a whole lot of 'Oh, I never thought about that', but now I can look back and know that the time, effort, bruises to my arms, chest, and hands, and laying across the top of the engine was worth it all.

As some of you know, last week I was in the final stages of starting the engine when I found that the fuel feed pump was not operational. I found a new spare and ordered it and had it shipped. It arrived yesterday. Today I cleaned off the old gasket, and without too much trouble installed the new fuel feed pump. I then connected the inlet fuel line and began to bleed the system one step at a time.

At first I only bled the lines up until the fuel filter, hoping that I did not have to bleed it all the way to the injectors. I had a water line connected to the engine running from a 5-gallon bucket which was supplied with water from a hose. I turned the key and pushed the start button and the engine would crank but would not start. So I cracked both of the fuel lines at the injectors, cranked the engine again (with the decompression levers up). After cranking for a bit, I tightened the fuel lines at the injectors and flipped the decompression levers into operating position, turned the key, pressed the start button and the engine began running, a bit rough at first, but after about 30 seconds, it ran smooth and even.

I ran it for about 5 minutes, continuing to keep the water bucket full, and bringing the rpm's up to 3K, then down to 2K, and then let it run at about 1200 rpm's. Once warmed up I was able to idle the engine at around 600 rpm's without it killing.

I am so thrilled. I immediately went up to the office of the marina and scheduled my launch day for next Friday. I then started the engine again and ran it for about 10 minutes, changing the rpm's and then with it running at 1200 rpm's I tested both forward and reverse gears to a few seconds.

I look forward to the launch and being able to run the engine and put it through some tests around the harbor, etc before taking it out into the lake.

I want to thank everyone on this forum for their helpful suggestions and insightful hints. A special thanks to Claude who provided the detailed bleeding process. It was most helpful even though I had the manuals. Thank you everyone.

I am in the process of putting together a detailed writeup on the re-power including pictures and descriptions. I hope to have that completed within the next week and will post when finished.

So now that I have a Yanmar in my H27, I have a used Renault RC8D for sale. I will be posting pictures and descriptions of the Renault engine, control panel, and coupling in the very near future. So if you know of anyone needing a Renault, please have them contact me.
 

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Nov 6, 2006
10,115
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Congratulations. Morgan.. Quite a job.. Now time to ENJOY ! Best to you.
 

Benny

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Sep 27, 2008
1,149
Hunter 320 Tampa, FL
Congratulations, job well done, but don't get so exited to test drive it as it will not break any speed records. Reliability and parts availability will reward your efforts.
 
Jun 22, 2009
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2 31 Ganges
engine for sale

I am interested in the Renault RC8D. Can you email me at garybustin@gmail.com or call me at 306 551 1947

Thanks

Gary


So now that I have a Yanmar in my H27, I have a used Renault RC8D for sale. I will be posting pictures and descriptions of the Renault engine, control panel, and coupling in the very near future. So if you know of anyone needing a Renault, please have them contact me.[/quote]
 
Aug 31, 2009
16
Hunter 27 Annapolis, MD
Hi,

I read your post from last year where you replaced your RC8D with a 2GM. How much did it cost you (not counting your time) to do this?

Thanks,

Steve
 
Sep 26, 2008
44
Hunter 27 Port Washington
Renault Engine Sold

Gary,

I have sold the Renault engine. Thanks for asking.

Russell

I am interested in the Renault RC8D. Can you email me at garybustin@gmail.com or call me at 306 551 1947

Thanks

Gary
 
Sep 26, 2008
44
Hunter 27 Port Washington
Cost of Yanmar 2GM

Steve,

I purchased my Yanmar 2GM for $1,750. I also purchased new engine mounts that cost around $200. I did all of the installation, alignment, etc by myself except for the machinists in our shop that helped make new mounting brackets (fabricated and welded). I could not have done it without their help. Aside from that, I did all the work by myself. I throughly enjoyed the experience and would not hesitate to do it again. It just took a lot of planning, looking at prints to check output shaft height. It was worth the bruised arms, hands, and fingers as well as the frustrations of bleeding the fuel system.

I know that if you keep your eyes peeled, you can find others selling used engines. You also might check with Torrensen Marine as I know that they sometimes have used ones.

Good luck.

Russell

I read your post from last year where you replaced your RC8D with a 2GM. How much did it cost you (not counting your time) to do this?

Thanks,

Steve
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Excellent job! Just a couple of notes. One thing you mentioned are the motor mounts. I assume that they are NOT Yanmar OEM parts. Just keep an eye on them. There have been issues when NOT using the correct mounts on these engines.

Another thing you need to do is to re-align the engine after the boat is afloat for a couple of days. The engine alignment MAY change.

I just want to know how the hell you figure out where everything is suppose to be mounted to get the correct angle on the motor? That looks like a very tricky task.
 

jtm

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Jun 14, 2004
313
Hunter 28.5 Dataw Island, SC
I too congratulate you on this effort. a 2GM is a very reliable machine.Also I noticed the bargain rate on the motormounts- I think they usually run about 120 each!! I I guess your machiinist pals must have done themetal bending and rubber bonding of the M/M "sandwich". I'd check the alignment after it settles as the rubber may compress some and the boat in-water has a different "set" than on the hard.
 
Sep 26, 2008
44
Hunter 27 Port Washington
First to answer the question on the motor mounts. I purchased them from Go2Marine as recommended by Mack Boring (Distributor for Yanmar). They were

DF-2200 Series Dual-Flex Marine and Industrial Engine Mounts

http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=85481F

Cost each was $51/each.

The machinists only fabricated the brackets to lower the centerline of the output shaft as the Yanmar 2GM output shaft was about 4 inches higher then the output shaft on the Renault.

Engine alignment when is the water: I never thought about doing that. I will have to find a few hours in order to do something like that as the alignment is no easy task. I believe it took me about 3 hours to align on the hard. I used feeler gages and got it as close as possible. It is also not the most comfortable thing to do - laying on top of the engine. A boat cushion between the engine and my body did help ease some of the discomfort. And it took me awhile to understand the dynamics of adjusting the height of the front mounts verses the adjustment of the rear mounts. I spent a lot of time changing the position of the mounts, not only front to rear but side to side.

But I can certainly understand that it will be worth the time and effort to insure that the alignment is correct. I will do this hopefully within the next couple of weeks. I will be interested to see how much difference there is.

I do have to thank everyone that helped me along the way...many from this forum but also some other local sailors and a few mechanics that offered excellent advice. Thanks to all.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
The reason I mentioned the motor mounts was because of a repower that happened in our marina. Someone installed a 2GM in a H'30. They screwed up and installed the wrong motor mounts forward/aft and the motor was jumping all over the place. The owners called in another mechanic that diagnosed the problem and everything was OKAY for a fee. The owner did not install the engine, they had someone that was supposed to know what they were doing do the install.
 
Oct 2, 2009
1
Vashon Boatworks Tramp Harbor 25 Seattle
Old Engine

Do you still have your old Renault RC8D? The intake valve return spring on my RC8D just broke, bending the push rod. I would like to replace both spring assemblies. Will you sell parts? If not, how much would you want for your old engine?

Thanks!

Doug Wheeler

This afternoon I was successful in completing the re-power of my H27 (see picture of engine). I originally removed the Renault engine last fall, purchased a Yanmar 2GM, reworked the mounts, etc and installed the Yanmar last month. Then came the replacement of the fuel feed pump which arrived via UPS on Friday. Installed that today, went through the bleeding process all the way to the injectors....and finally was treated with the beautiful sound of the 2GM engine running. Such a nice sound to hear after all that was involved with the re-power.

Of course the end result came with many frustrations and a whole lot of 'Oh, I never thought about that', but now I can look back and know that the time, effort, bruises to my arms, chest, and hands, and laying across the top of the engine was worth it all.

As some of you know, last week I was in the final stages of starting the engine when I found that the fuel feed pump was not operational. I found a new spare and ordered it and had it shipped. It arrived yesterday. Today I cleaned off the old gasket, and without too much trouble installed the new fuel feed pump. I then connected the inlet fuel line and began to bleed the system one step at a time.

At first I only bled the lines up until the fuel filter, hoping that I did not have to bleed it all the way to the injectors. I had a water line connected to the engine running from a 5-gallon bucket which was supplied with water from a hose. I turned the key and pushed the start button and the engine would crank but would not start. So I cracked both of the fuel lines at the injectors, cranked the engine again (with the decompression levers up). After cranking for a bit, I tightened the fuel lines at the injectors and flipped the decompression levers into operating position, turned the key, pressed the start button and the engine began running, a bit rough at first, but after about 30 seconds, it ran smooth and even.

I ran it for about 5 minutes, continuing to keep the water bucket full, and bringing the rpm's up to 3K, then down to 2K, and then let it run at about 1200 rpm's. Once warmed up I was able to idle the engine at around 600 rpm's without it killing.

I am so thrilled. I immediately went up to the office of the marina and scheduled my launch day for next Friday. I then started the engine again and ran it for about 10 minutes, changing the rpm's and then with it running at 1200 rpm's I tested both forward and reverse gears to a few seconds.

I look forward to the launch and being able to run the engine and put it through some tests around the harbor, etc before taking it out into the lake.

I want to thank everyone on this forum for their helpful suggestions and insightful hints. A special thanks to Claude who provided the detailed bleeding process. It was most helpful even though I had the manuals. Thank you everyone.

I am in the process of putting together a detailed writeup on the re-power including pictures and descriptions. I hope to have that completed within the next week and will post when finished.

So now that I have a Yanmar in my H27, I have a used Renault RC8D for sale. I will be posting pictures and descriptions of the Renault engine, control panel, and coupling in the very near future. So if you know of anyone needing a Renault, please have them contact me.
 
Sep 26, 2008
44
Hunter 27 Port Washington
Doug,

Sorry, but I sold the engine complete. I wish you luck in finding parts, etc.

Russell
 
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